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Thoughtful Questions

If stakeholders have thoughtful, fact-based and respectful questions of their peers that help refine their thinking, they will be posted here.  If they are silly, mean, disrespectful, inappropriate . . . they will not.

Name: The Forest Saver
Class_Name: 4th Block Enviromental Science
Teacher: Mr. Moore
School: Hampshrie High School
Askee: Vo-Agriculture
Date: Thursday, November 09, 2006
Time: 01:29 PM

Thoughtful_Question

I think the extending of the deer season is a good idea but what do you do when all these hunters are in the woods at the same time? Would you like to hunt for deer in the summer time more than the winter time?


Name: farmers
Class_Name: 4th
Teacher: Mr. Moore
School: hampshire high
Askee: farmers class 1
Date: Thursday, November 09, 2006
Time: 01:39 PM

Thoughtful_Question

You say that you should use dogs to chase the deer? Where are the dogs coming from and what will you do with all the stray dogs that are now running all over the county? They will reproduce and every liter will become wild and become aggressive resulting in another problem for the people of the county. Still having the problem with the deer because a demesticated dog will not kill a deer and then the rampage of dogs after they learn how to kill. Then after the deer population drops drasticaly the people will begin to complain about all the dogs and the lack of deer. So you should think ahead and of the consequence of your actions.

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School: Hampshire High WV
Class: Enviromental Science block 4
Teacher: Mr. Moore
group_name:
Stakeholder: other Logan  Farmers/Hunter
Date: 11/13/2006
Time: 02:12 PM

Thoughtful_Question

You have good points but I would like to point out the fact that most wolves hunt in packs. The prey in this case the deer will not die instantly. The anomal is ran down until it is to tierd to run and is finaly cought. Then the animal is attacked by multiple carnivors riping and tearing at the ingerd creacher intil it bleeds t death. After that it is riped apart sometimes still alive. Take it from me I hunt and I have seen a deer ran down and devower it from the back to the front. The deer was trying to get away as they ate it alive. I secided to not let it sufer and shot it wile it was being eaten. Now tell me a hunter is inhumane. So I ask you, Who makes the animal suffer more the peolpe who release animals to brutaly devower a population every time, or a preson who will kill them out right and mabe mess up once and awile. If you choose to let the animals suffer a painful by the hand of another animal who dont care how the animal goes down aslong as they can eat it, dead or alive. Then you are the inhumaine one not the hunter.


Name: Hunter
Class_Name: 1st Block Enviromental Science
Teacher: Mr. Moore
School: Hampshire High School
Askee: Team Happy Wolf
Date: Monday, November 13, 2006
Time: 08:25 AM

Thoughtful_Question

You say that the predators will only take out the sick and weak individuals. How do you propose that we would keep these predators away from farm animals and humans? Why do you think we eliminated these animals in the first place? Dont you think its more humane to kill the deer with a gun shot than to chase it down and tear it apart? Do you see any room for hunters or are you opposed to all hunting?


Name: Farmers 1
Class_Name: Environmental Science
Teacher: Mr. Moore
School: Hampshire High
Askee: Farmers 4th block
Date: Monday, November 13, 2006
Time: 08:48 AM

Thoughtful_Question

You had a great point about the dogs running loose and having a problem with them getting out of control. But we think that your idea about going to an orchard and having an unlimited deer season would endanger the plants and unwanted things in the forest, such as the dead leaves and plants. yes the farmer's crops would be safer but it would possibly make the deer population in danger of extinction. so maybe you should think your ideas thoroughly also.


Name: Homeowners
Class_Name: Environmental Science 2nd Block
Teacher: Mr. Moore
School: Hampshire High
Askee: The Forest Savers
Date: Monday, November 13, 2006
Time: 10:04 AM

Thoughtful_Question

Well if you hunted all the time including the summer and the winter then wouldnt that leave no deer for actual hunting season and if you took that season away, there still wouldnt be very many deer if any left at all. So why would you hunt during both summer and winter why not just one month of a year.


Name: The Forest Fighters
Class_Name: 2nd block
Teacher: Mr. Moore
School: Hampshire High School
Askee: PETA
Date: Monday, November 13, 2006
Time: 10:19 AM

Thoughtful_Question

What do you think the wolves will eat after all of the deer are gone? You can't exactly pick all of them back up and take them somewhere else when you are done with them. Another thing to consider is the wolves and mountain lions are not only going to eat just deer, they are going to eat what ever they can get their claws on. After the deer are gone who do you think the wolves, etc. are going to eat next? Besides deer we are the next best thing. And if crossbows are hurting the deer so bad then why don't you just get rid of them and only use rifles capable of taking the deer down right away?


Name: Hunters
Class_Name: Evironmental Science
Teacher: Mr.Moore
School:
Askee: Others (just a citizen, PETA).
Date: Monday, November 13, 2006
Time: 01:41 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Whats happenes when the wolves become a nusiance and kill farmers animals??? did think about that did you?


Name: Hunters
Class_Name: Environmental Science
Teacher: Mr.Moore
School: Hampshire High
Askee: Others (just a citizen, PETA).
Date: Monday, November 13, 2006
Time: 01:57 PM

Thoughtful_Question

what happens when the wolves are a problem!??!??

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Name: the homeowner group
Class_Name: Environmental Science 2
Teacher: Mrs. O'Leary
School: North Harford High School
Askee: the others
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:35 PM

Thoughtful_Question

We moved out in the country for the wildlife and to be closer to nature. If you demolish the deer population then what will people have to marvel at? Also, demolishing the deer population would ruin the balance in the ecosystem, how could you fix that?


Name: Hunter one
Class_Name: Environmental 2 b4
Teacher: oleary
School: North Harford High School
Askee: Peta 1
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:39 PM

Thoughtful_Question

so what would happen when we go into debt after making all the changes of having groups hunting constantly, and paying everyone??


Name: Team Happy Wolf!!
Class_Name: Env. Sci.
Teacher: Laura O'Leary
School: North Harford High
Askee: Farmers @ Hampshire High
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:40 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Your #2 and #7 contradict each other-- how can you possibly have a deer plot and dogs?? while the deer are happily munching on clover the rabid dogs will come running in, horribly interrupting their meal!! not only does it solve nothing, it also wastes space and money. Also, what is the benefit of planting extra crops? so when the deer eat a whole bunch it doesnt matter?? this is completely evasive!! in appeasing the deer, you would be wasting money on the extra seeds, and space for the extra planting room-- management practices would be much more efficient!!


Name: Hunter one
Class_Name: Environmental 2 B4
Teacher: Oleary
School: North Harford
Askee: Peta 1
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:41 PM

Thoughtful_Question

how would you convince the government to fund keeping deer out of your county, or the US, when we have much larger things to worry of?


Name: Hunters 1
Class_Name: Environmental 2
Teacher: Oleary
School: north harford high school
Askee: farmers one
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:42 PM

Thoughtful_Question

you say chase the deer away with dogs, although this seems ideal, what will you do when the deer just keep coming back? chasing them away wont make them less populated.


Name: hunters 1
Class_Name: environmental 2
Teacher: oleary
School: north harford high school
Askee: farmers
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:44 PM

Thoughtful_Question

if one deer comes to eat the clover, more will follow. they travel in pacts. how are you going to pay for having to replant the clover every year?


Name: Forester
Class_Name: Env. II
Teacher: Laura Oleary
School: North Harford High
Askee: Hunters
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:45 PM

Thoughtful_Question

How would taking does away make bucks get bigger and decrease the deer population??


Name: hunters 1
Class_Name: environmental 2
Teacher: oleary
School: north harford high school
Askee: farmers
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:46 PM

Thoughtful_Question

how are you going to keep the deer from multiplying that are coming to eat your clover? this will only increase the problem wont it?


Name: the homeowners
Class_Name: Environmental Science 2
Teacher: Mrs O'Leary
School: North Harford High School
Askee: Farmer Block 1;6
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:46 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Just out of curiosity, how do you propose we come up with the money to build fences, add crops, and buy "deer-chasing" dogs? Speaking of these dogs that supposedly chase the deer away and don't end up mauling them, which breed do you suggest?


Name: Team Happy Wolf!
Class_Name: Env.Sci.
Teacher: Laura O'Leary
School: North Harford
Askee: Forest Savers @ Hampshire High
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:46 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Have you managed to find a company that produces anti-deer spray? Or were you planning on developing it in the near future? We were also unaware that seeds to warn the deer were available. Is it true that the reason deer eat younger trees is because of the "included freshness"-- or is it because understory trees are more easily reached than more mature trees? Deer feed on vegetation, regardless of age. Also-- hopefully, the hunters would not be afraid to enter the woods if we were to reintroduce muontain lions and wolves. If the hunters are scared of game animals, that's a deficiency in the hunters. Fear defeats the purpose-- the entire sport of hunting is built upon killing "terrifying" animals!


Name: Foresters
Class_Name: Env. 2
Teacher: Laura Oleary
School: NHHS
Askee: Homeowners
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:46 PM

Thoughtful_Question

You said deer benifit the homeowners but never described how...how do deer benifit homeowners??


Name: Foresters
Class_Name: Env 2
Teacher: oleary
School: NHHS
Askee: Insurance
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:47 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Why would your home insurance rates go up because of deer? How do the deer effect our home insurance?


Name: Foresters
Class_Name: Env 2
Teacher: oleary
School: NHHS
Askee: Hunters
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:47 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Spot light hunting is illegal, so why would you resort to breaking the law to kill deer?


Name: Foresters
Class_Name: Env. 2
Teacher: Oleary
School: NHHS
Askee: Foresters
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:48 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Where would you get the money to make these deer fences and deer farms??


Name: The Farmers
Class_Name: Environmental science 2
Teacher: Mrs. O'Leary
School: North Harford High School
Askee: Homeowners
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:55 PM

Thoughtful_Question

1. How is deer being a major factor a benfit to homeowners? 2. Why do you believe the deer only go after your family's plants? Don't they eat anything else? 3. Do you really think that having sharpshooters in neighborhoods is safe?


Name: The Homeowners
Class_Name: Environmental Science 2
Teacher: Mrs. O'Leary
School: North Harford High School
Askee: The Forest
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:55 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Though you provide an interesting perspective, did you even consider that encasing trees with PVC pipes would hinder the aesthetic value of the forest, which is own of the main reasons people move to the country? Also, with the chemical smell idea, do you really want to spray your house and land with chemicals? I highly doubt the deer will be all that is affected by the smell.


Name: The Farmers
Class_Name: Environmental Science 2
Teacher: Mrs. O'Leary
School: North Harford High School
Askee: Hunters
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 12:57 PM

Thoughtful_Question

1. Why shouldn't you have permits to hunt? 2. Why is having a buck better than having a doe?


Name: forester
Class_Name: vo ag 1
Teacher: Mr. Halterman
School: EHHS
Askee: The forest
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:10 PM

Thoughtful_Question

This occurence is a part of the circle lif why would you want to destroy it or contrl it


Name: The Forest
Class_Name: Vo. Agriculture 1
Teacher: Mr. Halterman
School: EHHS
Askee: 4th block envirnmental science
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:14 PM

Thoughtful_Question

What are you planning to feed the deer in their little area once they eat all the food? New trees will probably not be able to germinate in time to support the growing population of deer.


Name: Farmers with guns
Class_Name: Aig 1
Teacher: Arthur Halterman
School: East Hardy
Askee: Hampshire Farmers
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:18 PM

Thoughtful_Question

What about the neighbors wouldnt the spotlight disturb them?


Name: farmers with guns
Class_Name: arg 1
Teacher: auther halterman
School: east hardy
Askee: hampshire farmer
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:22 PM

Thoughtful_Question

how high are you going to put the fence and how going to pay for the fence?


Name: Farmers with guns
Class_Name: Aig 1
Teacher: Arthur Halterman
School: East Hardy
Askee: Hunters 11 students
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:24 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Wouldnt you think if you killed a lot of the smaller bucks you would have bigger bucks cuz the bigger bucks will breed the does and make bigger bucks?


Name: insurance
Class_Name: Ag1
Teacher: Mr. halterman
School: East Hardy
Askee: homeowners
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:24 PM

Thoughtful_Question

How much damage truly does the deer cause to the home in the year, and why would deer come into a front yard in the day or night. For or to tear up the bushes or to get a little food. Not saying they won't but it does not happen that offen.


Name: forest
Class_Name: vo-ag. 1
Teacher: halterman
School: ehhs
Askee: hampshire 4th block
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:27 PM

Thoughtful_Question

How can you put a "substance" on the trees without harming the other ecosystems living in those trees? You have to think of the other animals as well, and you have to think of how the "chemical pill" effects the environment also like; the ozone layer when burning the trees for homes, but it is good that you thought of the downside of putting fences up, and it is good that you realized the cost problem of the "tree birthing place". I liked reading yours(one student to an other). sorry, i like to put things in to my own words


Name: forester
Class_Name: vo-ag. 1
Teacher: halterman
School: ehhs
Askee: hampshire block 1 farmer
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:30 PM

Thoughtful_Question

short and to the point! nice a little harsh though


Name: farmers with gun
Class_Name: arg 1
Teacher: auther halterman
School: east hardy
Askee: hampshire hunters
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:31 PM

Thoughtful_Question

We could control the population of does but wouldn't it be better to help the young bucks at so they can it bigger.


Name: The Mighty Hunters
Class_Name: Ag 1
Teacher: Mr. Halterman
School: EHHS
Askee: Hunters 11 students
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:31 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Why do you want kill more does? If you kill more does than bucks then you won't have as many deer to mate and then you won't have babies.Then the population will soon become extinct because you killed all theoes.


Name: The Mighty Hunters
Class_Name: ag 1
Teacher: Mr.Halterman
School: EHHS
Askee: The Hunters
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:32 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Ok.So let me get this straight. You want hunting season to be twice as long, right? Well, if you make hunting season longer, when will it be? If you go up until January, then you would be killing a lot of deer. If you kill all the does during hunting season, then the bucks will leave and go into another area and then, you will have no babies OR Big Bucks. If you have no babies, the deer population will cease to exist. And to the point about killing only does, what idiot will actually let the biggest buck that they have ever seen waltz right past them with their tongues out going ha ha ha you can't kill me becuase government made it legal. We've never obeyed the government before, so why should now make any difference?????


Name: The Mighty Cougars
Class_Name: Ag1
Teacher: Mr. Halterman
School: EHHS
Askee: Hunters
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:41 PM

Thoughtful_Question

If they are too small then why don't you put out food? Duh!!!


Name: insurance company
Class_Name: Ag1
Teacher: Mr. halterman
School: East Hardy
Askee: Farmers
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:42 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Don't you think that what you're saying about your "solution" to the deer poplution will or would cost you and other people more money to set this bogus! idea up, than to just go out and blow the deer up? Also the idea of raising the amount of deer you can shoot in one season is a good idea, but just do me a favor and forget the "solution" to the problem with the money robbing idea.


Name: The Mighty Hunters
Class_Name: AG 1
Teacher: Mr.Halterman
School: EHHS
Askee: 3 Hunters
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:43 PM

Thoughtful_Question

So, you say that 67% of the accidents last year were from deer. Well, the insurance companies brought wolves here to get rid of deer. The wolves won't eat deer when they have squirrels and chickens, and rabbits,(see my point?) So when the wolves eat the farmers animals, aren't you right back to where you started?????


Name: Insurance Company
Class_Name: Vo ag. 1
Teacher: Mr. Halterman
School: East Hardy High School
Askee: Forester
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Time: 01:43 PM

Thoughtful_Question

You make some pretty obvious points, but have you ever heard of carrying capacity? See, it is scientifically impossible for deer to rule an area of which other living organisms are limited. Now, if a population overrides its carrying capacity then, if we as a higher species chose not to control it, nature itself through disease, weather, and food shortages, etc. will kill of the deer. Once the carrying capacity is higher than it should be then once the deer die off the capacity will lower. Therefor, it is impossible for the deer(or any) population to exceed what it's set limit is. Perhaps next time you should look more into what you are typing, words don't mean anything unless you can back them up

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Name: farmers 1
Class_Name: Environmental Science
Teacher: Mr. Moore
School: Hampshire
Askee: farmers with guns
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2006
Time: 08:16 AM

Thoughtful_Question

First of all, if you are going to ask a question to someone you need to learn how to write. We are going to put the fence high enough that the deer can't jump over it and get into our crops. To pay for it, we will use money that we get from selling our crops.


Name: Hunters
Class_Name: 1st Block Environmental Science
Teacher: Mr.Moore
School: Hampshire High School
Askee: Team Happy Wolf
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2006
Time: 08:21 AM

Thoughtful_Question

You say that the deer need management. But you are opposed to all types of hunting. You should check out this site for deer management practices. http://www.wvdnr.gov/Hunting/IntAppDeerCon.shtm


Name: the forest
Class_Name: 1st environmental
Teacher: moore
School: hhs
Askee: the homeowner group
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2006
Time: 08:30 AM

Thoughtful_Question

The deer aren't the only thing to 'marvel' at in nature. Fortunately, there is a lot of diversity in both plants and animals, but the deers' over-population can have negative effects on the rest of the forest. These negative effects include lack of forest regeneration, starvation and disease in the animals, and high amounts of deer related car accidents. By reducing the deer population, we would actually help balance the ecosystem, as their high numbers are currently destroying their own habitat.


Name: 1st Block Homeowners 6 students
Class_Name: 1st Block Environmental Science
Teacher: Bill Moore
School: Hampshire High School
Askee: Team Happy Wolf
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2006
Time: 08:52 AM

Thoughtful_Question

If you are for PETA why are you for introducing predators into the rural environment? If you are representing PETA why are you eager to put animals in danger? Predators would not only pose a threat to household pets but also to SMALL CHILDREN!!!! What would make you think that wolves would only prey on the weak and old deer population? Although they would go for the easiest target does not mean that the deer in question would be old or weak. If you have to introduce predators, why would you release wolves and mountain lions? Coyotes would pose the same threat to the deer population but are less aggressive towards the human popultaion.


Name: Hampshire Farmers
Class_Name: 2nd Block
Teacher: Mr. Moore
School: HHS
Askee: Farmers with Guns
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2006
Time: 10:21 AM

Thoughtful_Question

You may need to put a time limit on how late you can spotlight.


Name: Hampshire Farmers
Class_Name: 2nd Block
Teacher: Mr. Moore
School: HHS
Askee: Farmers with Guns
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2006
Time: 10:23 AM

Thoughtful_Question

The exclusion fence and school is six foot tall. We may be able to obtain the funds through government grants or wildlife management groups.


Name: Homeowners/7
Class_Name: Environmental Science Block 2
Teacher: Mr. Moore
School: Hampshire High
Askee: The Forest Savers
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2006
Time: 10:26 AM

Thoughtful_Question

As to your thoughtful question what you stated is not exactly what we meant. What we meant was that you would have longer hunting seasons or more hunting seasons. But you would have to have sometime in-between the longer seasons and or the multiple seasons, otherwise there would be no deer population.


Name: Hampshire Hunters
Class_Name: 2nd Block
Teacher: Mr. Moore
School: HHS
Askee: Hunters with Guns.
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2006
Time: 10:26 AM

Thoughtful_Question

By lowering the number of does you will increase the aboundance of food to be ate by the young bucks, which will help them.

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Name: The Hunter
Class_Name: Enviromental Science
Teacher: Mr.Moore
School: Hampshire High
Askee: Peta
Date: Thursday, November 16, 2006
Time: 09:49 AM

Thoughtful_Question

PETA, We use those animals for food. I agree that shooting an animal an wounding it is wrong. We shoot to kill. God put those animals on this earth for use to kill and eat. so we think that you all should not judge all hunters. We keep the population down. so whats the big deal about killing them??


Name: the homeowners
Class_Name: Environmental Science 2
Teacher: Mrs. O'Leary
School: NHHS
Askee: the forest-1st environmental
Date: Thursday, November 16, 2006
Time: 11:10 AM

Thoughtful_Question

We're fully aware that deer aren't the only thing to marvel at in nature and we don't think letting them overproduce is good, we know the negative effects they will have on the ecosystem. We were merely commenting on another group's suggestion to demolish the deer population entirely, which would in fact throw the ecosystem out of balance. A lack of deer as well as too many deer can negatively affect the environment.


Name: farmers
Class_Name: ENV4
Teacher: Moore
School: HHS
Askee: Farmers 1 Mr. Moore
Date: Thursday, November 16, 2006
Time: 01:51 PM

Thoughtful_Question

Sorry I did not answer you earlier but I been busy addressing PETA and their idea to free Wolves. Now to get to your concerns, I never said to have an open season on deer at a random orchard. But to protect your crops and if you donít know only the land owner and with limitations can you obtain a farmers permit. To the best of my knowledge an orchard owner canít obtain a permit unless he/she proves that the deer are damaging the crop. The deer are like a person, if they can find an easy way to get a meal. They will eat the apples off the ground before reaching into the tree. So I donít believe that the deer population will be effected to badly by the farmers and by rotating the standard the deer population will regenerate if it gets to low. If you have any more questions or ideas let us know. It would work better if we work together and maybe our ideas will be considered.

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