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Streaks for Environment                                                                               Harrisonburg HS

                                                                                                                               3/25/2010

Homeowner POV

As homeowners, we want to restore the Chesapeake Bay for the health of our families and

communities. The bay is important to us because we rely on the water for recreational and

commercial uses, such as fishing and crabbing. The bay is a major economical factor for

many people living in the watershed. Despite the cost from taxes, and the other sacrifices

that we would be making, we would still be willing to clean up the bay to give us a new,

clean source of water. However, we do not want to take action until we feel that the

problem has become too serious. This is because there are too many people that live too far

 away from the bay for them to feel as though it is a real problem. They simply do not feel

as though they have a direct affect on the bay. We understand that we would possibly be

giving up large amounts of money to provide incentives and spend on the clean-up process.

Also, we understand that in order to clean up the bay, we would have to alter the way with

live our lives to a more environmentally friendly style. For example, construction projects

would have to be undergone to help prevent sedimentary pollution to the bay. This could be

restoration of homes to become more environmentally friendly, or moving to an area that

wouldn’t affect the environment as much.

Our toughest challenge comes from trying to get large numbers of people to participate in

the clean up. We would hold some sort of a city board meeting, to determine if the

community has an interest in the issue, and to see how important they feel it is. We would

then have an open forum with local experts on water health and safety to inform the public

 about the importance of the issue. In order to get our group to participate, we would have

to provide financial incentives. Voluntary work helps, but it alone will not achieve our goal.

For example, we could give some sort of monetary benefit to a person, if they agree to

change to a more environmentally friendly lifestyle. Also we will make sure people,

especially the younger generation to become more environmentally aware of the problems.

We would tell them that it is the only way for them to save the lifestyles that they live. We

 would get our issue into the public eye, either by news, or print media. This could even

include making point source pollutions look bad. For example, if a company finds that its

name is being used negatively in print, they will be willing to help fix the problem to get

their name out of the media. We want to get our issue into schools, as a method of

educating the general public to our issue.

As a homeowner, we provide structure to the economy by paying taxes and holding jobs.

Also, we spend money and put money into the economy. If we disappeared, the economy

would suffer, and there would be fewer people trying to clean up the bay.

If our plan didn’t work, clean up of the bay would have to come from another source. For

example, ordinances and regulations would have to be created at local levels.

 

 

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        Response of:  Streaks for Environment - homeowner - HburgHS

                             To:  Musselman Homeowners - homeowner - MslmnHS

                                                                                                                        4/19/2010

              We understand your concerns, however, the point of view is not that of our own, but

              that of the homeowners. So in context, homeowners will in fact, want to wait until the

               problem affects them personally.

    From:   Musselman Homeowners - homeowner - MslmnHS                                    Ask

                                                                                                                        4/14/2010

       I agree with many of the concerns you posted. Although why would you wait to take

       action until the problem becomes very serious? Wouldnt you agree that often times

       once a problem becomes serious it also becomes to late to salvage or fix the problem

       in the first place?

    From:   Super fishy fishermen - Waterman - JWHS(F)                                      Ask

                                                                                                                        4/9/2010

       Yes I agree with everything except when u say not everyone is effected or its not a

       SERIOUS problem yet because every stream leads to the ocean and eventually all water

       runs together .Whatever pollution that's in the  water will effect everyone everywhere in

       time , it enters your pipes and what not and you drink the polluted water.

    From:   Troop Big-Horn - local_gov - JWHS(F)                                                  Ask

                                                                                                                        4/9/2010

       I feel like your waiting too long to do something about it. Its needs to be improved now not

        later NOW! BUT... your POV is very well written. If yu let it get any worse then it is now

       then how will you fix it?

    From:   SKL Environmentalists - Other - JWHS(F)                                             Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       i agree. everyone depends on the bay. it is important to a lot of things

    From:   Ultimate Anglers - Waterman - JWHS(F)                                              Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       I really Like some of your ideas like getting all the people together by having a city board

       meeting to see all who is interested in cleaning up the bay. Also you could get people without

       any jobs and pay them for it.

    From:   Chalky and the Crawfish - Waterman - EHHS                                        Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       This POV is very well written but, we believe that the problems need to be solved before

       things get too serious.  If you wait until things get too serious then it will be very hard to fix

        the problem.  Everyone needs to help with the fixing of the bay now, and not wait until the

       last second.

    From:   United Farmers of the Chesapeake - farmer - JWHS(F)                       Ask

                                                                                                                           3/30/2010

       If we wait until its too serious it became to late to even get close to restoring the bay.

       So every homeowner should be aware of that.

 

    From:   FC Government - local_gov - JWHS(F)                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       I agree with what you’re saying. We are making Cleaning clubs so we can get people

       participate in their own community. Also we are raising taxes so we can buy things we

       need so we can participate in cleaning up the bay.  But we will only raise the taxes every

       other month.

    From:   Mammalpalooza - CB_Ecosystem - JWHS(F)                                           Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       This POV is well written and is the most explained POV for homeowners. I have gaven

       suggestions for the other Homeowners and this POV already has it written. I like how it

       stated that the Homeowners tax should help the bay clean up.

    From:   Mammalpalooza - CB_Ecosystem - JWHS(F)                                           Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       You talk about people living more environmentally friendly lifestyles but you fail to point

       out any good examples of how the average homeowner can do this. Heres a big one:

       don't dump chemicals down the sink! Things that go down the drain one way or another

       will end up in the watershed.

    From:   James Wood Tree Huggers - Other - JWHS(F)                                     Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       I agree with your position you have posted. You rely on the bay as well as everyone else.

       You are right without you the economy would suffer. It is a shame that people will not

       help the bay without some financial establishment. Altough it is helping them out in the

       end.

    From:   Emperor's of the Land - farmer - JWHS(F)                                          Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       I don't think you should pressure people into things.  You would get more positive help if

       you do things like tax back for volunteering, family friendly fundraisers and create fun

       ways to clean up the environment.  I did like the way that you use the media to get your

       point across to businesses and local community. 

    From:   James Wood Tree Huggers - Other - JWHS(F)                                     Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       For the most part, i agree with your ideas and concerns. The bay most certainly does

       affect us all, even though most people dont realize it. Most homeowners really dont care

        about this kind of stuff because, to them, they pay their taxes, and thats enough. No

       one wants to spend money on something that doesnt matter to them. I agree, and

       disagree with your idea about not taking too much action right now, because the bay isnt

       our main water source yet, but maybe one day it could be. And if we dont do something

       about it now, when we need it, it could be too far gone. As you said, it would be very

       hard to get people to be intrested, and to take part in cleaning up the bay. The people

       who live further away from the bay, will not care as much as the peope who live closer

       to the bay. So, i think it would be smart to do something like a city meeting, and at least

       find where the people stand, and how they feel on the subject. Then, go from there and

       hope for the best.

 

 

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Beachfront Business                                                                                                Calvert HS

                                                                                                                               3/25/2010

        If Bay-project clean-up plans are in full effect, then where is the result? The

Chesapeake Bay has now entered into a seasonal drift of the large population increase of

algae in the water through enormous increases in Nitrogen consumed by the bay. The

overpopulated algae, in the Chesapeake, have drained its ecosystem of essentials to life of

its inhabitants. The algae feeds on oxygen decreasing the bay’s supply dramatically, as well

 as blocking sunlight for underwater plants, thus preventing production of oxygen through

Photosynthesis. Without underwater plants having sunlight, they will not be able to produce

oxygen, and create dead spaces. These dead spaces kill organisms in the ecosystem such

fish and crabs. As a homeowner, I view the current treatment as unacceptable. Why would

a homeowner have any concern in this topic though?

 

  The pollution of the bay has had a direct effect on me as a homeowner because of these

effects on my property. The lack of oxygen in the bay has resulted in deaths of many fish

and crabs, all of which end up on the surface of the water viewable from my home. Dead

organisms floating on the water and overpopulation of algae in the bay create a “dead”

scenery. Recreation in and around the water is non-existent while large amounts of

potentially hazardous toxins are present, through red tides and phyto plankton. The value

of my property has gone down, due to the inaccessibility and disgusting scenery caused by

over nutrient pollution.

 

  Increasing the oyster population of the Chesapeake Bay through creating laws preventing

over harvesting would cleanse the bay of large amounts of algae. This would help combat

the pollution of nutrients into the bay, and restore life to the Chesapeake Bay ecosystem.

As Homeowners, the value of our waterfront property would be restored, and recreation

would exist once again on the waterfront.

 

 

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    From:   enviromental peeps - recreation - MslmnHS                                            Ask

                                                                                                                        4/20/2010

       I liked your POV i think its a shame that your property has gone down in value do the

       conditions of the bay. Hopefully this problem will be solved soon and your property value

       will increase in time.

    From:   enviromental peeps - recreation - MslmnHS                                            Ask

                                                                                                                        4/20/2010

       What i dont understand is what do you want to do to fix the problem and how can oysters

       can help with it???

    From:   Cthulhu Homeowers - homeowner - RHS(H)                                             Ask

                                                                                                                        4/15/2010

       I understand and agree with your point of view, but would the oysters be able to live in

       such a harsh environment? if the algae population is at levels of causing underwater

       animals to suffocate, wouldn't oysters suffocate as well, or would increasing species

       lower the O2 levels for other organisms, causing them to parish.

    From:   Musselman Homeowners - homeowner - MslmnHS                                    Ask

                                                                                                                        4/14/2010

       Your POV is thought out but we feel that the focus of it shouldnt be on the

       appearence it should definitely put more concern on the real problem of the bay not

       what you don't like looking at.

    From:   The Farming Deer Assasins - farmer - EHHS                                         Ask

                                                                                                                        4/9/2010

       what does beach front property have to do with the bays ecosystem.

    From:   Super fishy fishermen - Waterman - JWHS(F)                                      Ask

                                                                                                                        4/9/2010

       I really like your POV. I think it's real interesting, you have some good reasons. It is true

       who would want to see dead fish and crabs on the side of your house that's nasty.


    From:   White Hall Government - local_gov - JWHS(F)                                      Ask

                                                                                                                        4/9/2010

       I like how you pointed out the problems and real facts that are happening now. The major

       problem is the lack of oxygen from dirtying the bay thus killing the animals and plants in

       the water. So I think it would be a good idea to add more of the oyster population to the

       bay so it can eat the algae and make the bay healthier.

    From:   Troop Big-Horn - local_gov - JWHS(F)                                                  Ask

                                                                                                                        4/9/2010

       To: Beachfront Buisness. I like the ideas your throwing out there but, I think you should

       remain focused on the placement of stuff (oysters) in there. Instead of focusing on the

       "look". From: Troop Big Horn.

    From:   SKL Environmentalists - Other - JWHS(F)                                             Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       There is a lot of problems. but one of the major problems are the lack of oxygen from

       dirtying the bay

    From:   Ultimate Anglers - Waterman - JWHS(F)                                              Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       I really like how you included facts that are happening now and the idea of bringing the

       oysters into the bay to clean up some the pollution. Also need to get people to help clean up

       the bay

    From:   EMRT Farmers - farmer - JWHS(F)                                                       Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       i think you had really good information about the bay and the pollution.i like how you are

       trying to get rid of big bisness.

    From:   James Wood Tree Huggers - Other - JWHS(F)                                     Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       i think that its realy interesting that if the algee levels get high then the number of plants

       under water decreeses. because of the amout of sunlight that gets throw to the bottom of the

       water, but if we kkep the water clean then its easeier for life to live.

    From:   Lexicon Farmer Inc - farmer - JWHS(F)                                               Ask

                                                                                                                           3/31/2010

       I really like how you included real facts that are happening right now. I agree with the

       suggestion you said to prevent it with the oyster law because it�s not something that is

       complicated. You really specified how you as a homeowner have been affected by the

       problems. Goooooood job

 

    From:   United Farmers of the Chesapeake - farmer - JWHS(F)                       Ask

                                                                                                                           3/30/2010

       I agree with the idea of bring in the oyster in to clean up some the pollution. It also

       might overpopulate the bay with oysters and that can also the healthiness of the water.

    From:   Triple J & CB fishermen - Waterman - JWHS(F)                                  Ask

                                                                                                                           3/30/2010

       I wish people would care more about the pollution and what happens to the bay. The poor

        critters are dying, the bay is over populated with algea, its just terrible. I agree that

       things should be restored.

 

    From:   The Farming Deer Assasins - farmer - EHHS                                         Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       how is the crab fishing these days with the pollution

    From:   Mammalpalooza - CB_Ecosystem - JWHS(F)                                           Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       I agree on your insight to the ever-growing problem we have with pollution and the

       amount of dead fellow critters we have in the streams and bay of the watershed. I also

       would like to see more done to help prevent and bring down the amount of pollution in

       these areas around your home. I would like to know if there is anything you think you

       could do to help as well, besides putting more critters, such as oysters, in the watershed

       to clear out some of the algae. Maybe you could dispose of your wastes in a cetain way,

       for example, maybe recycle? I'm not sure, I'm just making suggestions.

    From:   Mammalpalooza - CB_Ecosystem - JWHS(F)                                           Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       The overpopulation of algae has't drained the critters in the bay. They aren't all dead

       but it's a possible threat. This POV has good reasoning and explanation in a home owners

       shoes. I like the how it mentioned the value of the house going down because of its ugly

       scenery. The increasing population of oysters may also need the help of actual people

       using their equipment and labor to clean up the place, I would advise the public and let

       people who have the power or congressmen/govn't officials about how you and the

       people supporting you feel.

    From:   FC Government - local_gov - JWHS(F)                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       Well guys I'm glad you pointed this out to us. We never seen it as such a big problem.

       We as the government can try to increase the oyster population because i do think it

       would help with the algae problems we are facing. If we did this we would have a more

       lively bay.

    From:   FC Government - local_gov - JWHS(F)                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       Well guys i'm glad you pointed this out to us. We never seen it as such a big problem. We

        as the government can try to increse the oyster population because i do think it would

       help with the algea problems we are facing. If we did this we would have a more livley

       bay.

    From:   James Wood Tree Huggers - Other - JWHS(F)                                     Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       You have brought up a good point with the lack of oxygen in the bay, but that is not the

       only problem. There is so much more pollution going on than just lack of oxygen in the

       water. Also, The fish and crabs are not the only concern, the bay is important to

       everything and everyone. Yes, the algae is a problem, but there is so much more than

       just that. Theres all kinds of chemicals and sewage being dumped into the bay. One day,

       we may need the bay for a water source for the people, so we need to take care of

       more than just the animals in it.

    From:   James Wood Tree Huggers - Other - JWHS(F)                                     Ask

                                                                                                                           3/29/2010

       Being a tree hugger I really enjoyed reading about the clean up of algea from the bay.

       I respect the idea of giving more oxygen to the bay.

 

 

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Smurfs                                                                                                    Jefferson HS-Picard

                                                                                                                                  4/1/2010

The state of the Chesapeake Bay and its watershed should be a major point of concern forPOV:

 homeowners within its boundaries.  Homeowners need to be educated as to what causes

much of the problems now being faced and what they can do to aid in the clean-up of the

bay.  Non-point source pollutants such as nutrients and sediments are filling up and clouding

 the waters of the bay.  This leads to an excess of algae growth, which in turn causes a

decreased oxygen supply.  The lack of oxygen is detrimental to the aquatic ecosystem.  The

 algae also blocks the sunlight from reaching plants that serve as a vital part of the food

chain.  How does this affect homeowners?  Consider everything that the Chesapeake Bay

supports.  It is a recreational and commercial mecca for the region.  As it is polluted, the

local fishing industry suffers.  As its waters are dirtied, it is no longer an ideal get away

for families.  All of this happens progressively, but the time to act is the present.  Things

probably need to start at a local level among communities and it needs to start with

education.  People need to be aware of the consequences their daily actions are having on

the environment.  However, they can’t be left to act on their own.  The average person

needs specific examples of things they can do that will help.  The local government can help

 by making it easier for people to be more environment friendly.  For example, some people

just dump chemicals down their sinks or towlets.   Places can be provided at convenient

locations for properly dumping chemicals that would otherwise end up in the bay. 

Incentives can also be made for changes in lifestyles.

 

 

 

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    From:   enviromental peeps - recreation - MslmnHS                                            Ask

                                                                                                                        4/20/2010

       I agree that pollution is a major issue in the Chesapeake Bay area, but what can be done to

       prevent/fix these issues? You say that the government should provide areas to "dump"

       chemicals, but isn't our government spending enough money on trivial pursuits as it is?

       Although it is a good thing to clean up the bay, we think that it can be done without

       government involvement. 

    From:   Biology Honors Students - Other - MslmnHS                                          Ask

                                                                                                                        4/20/2010

       We really like your POV.  These are good ideas that could help our society.

    From:   Musselman Homeowners - homeowner - MslmnHS                                    Ask

                                                                                                                        4/14/2010

       Good ideas, like your examples could potentially make a difference.

    From:   The Feds - Other - EHHS                                                                       Ask

                                                                                                                        4/12/2010

       You all make a very good point. Your entry is one of the very few that actually makes sense

        and sticks to the importance. I agree with much acceptance. (:

    From:   Four Fish and an Otter - CB_Ecosystem - JWHS(F)                              Ask

                                                                                                                        4/9/2010

       This makes a very good point people do need examples of what to do.  If people seen

       actors or actress recycling or picking up litter.  Then the general public might start to. 

       That is a great idea.

    From:   Troop Big-Horn - local_gov - JWHS(F)                                                  Ask

                                                                                                                        4/9/2010

       Your ideas are amazing but I think you think of creative ways for the people to get more

       involved in those ideas you have. The waste idea putting it in the toilet or sink isn't so

       great though. I disagree with it because that water usually goes somewhere where there is

       animals and their drink that toxic waste other then that your ideas are GREAT!

    From:   Ultimate Anglers - Waterman - JWHS(F)                                              Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       I like your idea about getting the local people informed about the bay. Also you should take

       votes around your area

    From:   A environmentalists group - Other - JWHS(F)                                       Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       this is a very good point. people in the area do need to help with the clean up of the bay.the

       bay dose support a lot of thing its one of the main sources of the food chain.i agree 100%

       with you.

    From:   FC Government - local_gov - JWHS(F)                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       You're right, the government can help make people environmental friendly by enforcing laws

        stating that people shouldn't be able to dump toxic waste down their drains or toilets

    From:   EMRT Farmers - farmer - JWHS(F)                                                       Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       very good job on informing people about how non-point source pollution that goes into the

       bay effects homeowners and other residents of the area. i agree there is more homeowners

       can do like you said. dont flush chemicals down the toilet. it always ends back up into the

       water.

    From:   Chuck the Purple Shoelace - recreation - EHHS                                    Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       I really like your idea on having a place to dump chemicals so people don't flush them down

       the toilet or into the sink. That was an amazing idea!! I think your POV was great! =)

    From:   Chuck the Purple Shoelace - recreation - EHHS                                    Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       Um.....I'm a little confused, are you for homeowners or tourism?

    From:   James Wood Tree Huggers - Other - JWHS(F)                                     Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       i also understand with what tour saying all people need to know and be concerned how the

       bay is. no more vacations for the family if the water is trashed everything will be hurt. we

       can provide dumping places but it would cost alot.

    From:   James Wood Tree Huggers - Other - JWHS(F)                                     Ask

                                                                                                                           4/8/2010

       I fully agree with your POV. peole should be taught about thei impact on the watershed and

       what they can do to help it. And yes, it is the average person who has the most impact, but the

        average person can have an even bigger impact on cleaning up. You should focus on getting

       each indivudial family to clean up their own little piece of land.

       i agree that we need to control the way people dump there cheimicals. have the time that

       someone does somthing harmful to the enviroment they dont know intill later. but by that time

        its to late. but i think we need to teach people the hashards and dangers of dumping.

 

 

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The Concerned Proprietors                                                                     Jefferson HS-Picard

                                                                                                                                4/12/2010

As concerned homeowners, keeping the Chesapeake Bay clean is very important. Even

though we live in Jefferson County, West Virginia, a good two hundred miles away from the

 actual bay, it is a part of our watershed.  Maintaining the bay plays a huge part in our

family’s lifestyle. We want to drink clean water. We want to bathe in clean water. We want

 to swim in clean water. Sediment and nutrients are becoming more and more abundant in

the bay and it is ruining the ecosystem of it, which in part, is affecting the overall quality of

 the water.  We realize that there would be consequences (such as taxes, or major

lifestyle changes) but it would be worth it as long as the homeowners would be healthy.

          The problems with trying to get changes like these into effect are that it is difficult

to get enough people to take part.  Many people do not understand the consequences of

having a dirty bay. They do not realize that even though it is far away, it affects our

watershed, and our homes.  We could start a committee to get the word out. We could

rally and put up signs to raise awareness. Any of these things would help.

          In our individual households, there are many steps that we could take to have a

greener lifestyle; to decrease the amount of sediment and pollution that enter the bay. 

For one, we could try and protest large amounts of construction work to prevent the

nutrient loss in the soil and the amount of sediment that will end up in the bay. We could

also make sure to not flush chemicals down the toilet. We could not wash our cars in our

driveways anymore or we could at least use environmentally-healthy soaps.

        The main problem still is raising awareness. People need to know the seriousness of

this, and the consequences that will occur without our help. Many people do not believe that

 anything needs to be done yet; that it is not serious yet. But the fact is, it will get more

serious, and maybe to the point of being too late. We have time to prevent this, and we

need to take action as homeowners and clean up our bay.

 

 

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    From:   Musselman Homeowners - homeowner - MslmnHS                                    Ask

                                                                                                                        4/20/2010

       We like your POV. It is very important to raise awareness to our community around us

       even though we don't live very close to the bay. Doing things to improve construction

       quality (so to speak)is also a very great idea in the improvement of the Bay.

 

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Musselman Homeowners                                                                                      Musselman HS

                                                                                                                                4/13/2010

As a homeowner, we are highly concerned with the environment around us and how we POV:

effect it both positively and negatively. With that in mind we need to start looking at the

processes around us, such as things that we can't change, and see how to make them more

eco-friendly and hopefully benefit the environment and bodies of water around us. We

believe that steps should be taken now in order to prevent a serious problem from arising. 

More light needs to be brought to the Chesapeake Bay problem and people need to be made

 aware of this growing problem. As said by others, it seems that people believe it isn't a

serious problem because they don't live close enough to the source. Living in areas densely

populated has the benefit of being able to assemble a large group to participate in some

sort of clean up or even just creating awareness to the others around them. Even smaller

communities or individuals can make a difference because every little bit helps, whether it

is through volunteer work (such as clean-ups, planting, ect.) or raising awareness to other

individuals or communities around them.  As a homeowner we can make a difference in the

pollution and environmental problems around us.

 

 

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    From:   enviromental peeps - recreation - MslmnHS                                            Ask

                                                                                                                        4/20/2010

       My thoughts of it it that a community can be highly influenced by our surroundings. My

       idea is of creating a recycling program for Musselman High. The biggest influence is our

       school. So why not start a change at schools. My POV did not post and I need to be part of

       the discussion.

        Response of:  Musselman Homeowners - homeowner - MslmnHS

                             To:  Durdy Developers - developer - GCHS

                                                                                                                        4/20/2010

              Do you have any more suggestions?  A big part of raising awarness as a homeowner

              could be setting an example by practicing better habits such as not using lawn

              chemicals and possibly haveing rain barrels.

    From:   Durdy Developers - developer - GCHS                                                     Ask

                                                                                                                        4/15/2010

       I agree with your POV in the sense that education is BIG part of the problem. Much of

        the public is probably ignorant both to the condition of the Bay and to the steps they

       can take to improve the Bay's condition. I think that Raising public awareness should be

        the first priority of the project to improve the Bay. People need to know about the

       problem and learn what they can do to help alleviate the problem.

 

 

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Homeland Defense                                                                           Rappahannock HS-Harman

                                                                                                                                4/14/2010

As homeowners, the condition of the Chesapeake Bay affects us greatly. Whether inland orPOV:

 beachfront property owners, we all affect the Bay, and in return, we all feel the effects

of the damage we do to it. However, other stakeholders of the Bay also negatively affect

its productivity and its condition. Fisherman and recreational boaters pollute the Bay along

with us, and for the Bay to be cleaned, all of us must work together. Whether its chemicals

 to make that perfect lawn and garden, trash that was left to wash down the streams,

sediment from recent construction, oil and trash from recreational trips, or left over nets

and hooks from fisherman, everyone that lives and works on the Chesapeake Bay negatively

 affects it.

 

We, the homeowners, support the full clean-up of the Bay. The Chesapeake Bay has

morphed into a place with a thriving sea food industry, and it provides recreation to all. We

live on the Bay for its beauty and prime real estate, but we are careless. We pollute the

Bay with our every move, and we need to band together to restore the Bay before the

damage becomes irreparable. If we do not, the resulting collapse of the sea food industry,

the end of recreation on the Bay, and inevitable depreciation of waterfront property will

destroy the economy of the surrounding areas. We, as homeowners, can use our voices and

power as voters and petitioners to create committees and organizations that can work to

restore the Bay. While it will definitely cost us money, the economic collapse caused by not

doing so will be far, far worse.

 

Others on the Bay affect it just as much as us. Waterfront property owners regularly

report trash cans, wrappers, and bags, washed up on their beaches and floating near their

homes. People using the Bay need to be restricted on the things they can dump into it, as

their pollution destroys the value of waterfront property and endangers the Bay by

endangering and killing its animals. Fisherman, however, are even worse than recreational

users. They leave old nets, hooks, and pots in the waters near our homes, not only

endangering the animals, but also endangering the children that swim there. Fisherman need

 to be responsible with the way they treat the Bay, especially considering that it's their

livelihood.

 

The effects we and other stakeholders are having on the Bay are obvious. Dead fish and

crabs wash up on shore regularly, killed by oil and chemical pollution. Massive drifts of

algae and phytoplankton, disguising dangerous toxins, float near our beaches. And this

damage is not just the homeowners' responsibility, it's everyone's. All the stakeholders,

including us, need to work together in order to restore the Bay. If we do not, then our

homes and land will be ruined, our children will not able to swim in the Bay, the fisherman

will lose their jobs, and the economy of the Bay will eventually collapse. The pollution

already in the Bay can be reversed over time. We all the stakeholders can use our time,

money, and power to restore it to its former glory.

 

 

 

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    From:   Musselman Homeowners - homeowner - MslmnHS                                    Ask

                                                                                                                        4/20/2010

       Although we agree with you in that all stakeholders effect the Bay, we don't neccessarily

       believe that everyone that lives and works on the Cheapeake Bay effects it negatively.

       People can still live near it and take part in the recreation as long as they take care of

       their part, such as cleaning up after themselves.

 

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Cthulhu Homeowers                                                                          Rappahannock HS-Harman

                                                                                                                                4/14/2010

As a homeowner in the Chesapeake Bay, I have a very strong opinion about the bay and the

efforts people are taking to preserve the bay, and though you may not agree with my point

of view, it is an intelligent theory and you should respect that. That being said I believe that

 the preservation of the Chesapeake Bay is a complete financial and biological waste, and

we as humans should accept that the demise of our Bay is occurring and it is all of our

faults, But though we might be losing a potential gold mine of fresh seafood, we can also

benefit from the destruction of this bay, for we could drain parts, and build new industrial,

 commercial, and residential properties where the bay once was.

The fact is we humans are the strongest animal on earth, and supported by Darwin's

Natural Selection, we are the controllers of all other beings on this earth. We developed

logic and tools, things that these bay creatures could never do.

I am not one to say that we should go out of our way to kill these creatures, for that is not

 my purpose, but the fact is the marine life should either migrate to a new area, or adapt

to the new bay, and if they cannot, they are biologically as developed as they ever will be.

Animals that cannot adapt will die, and we as humans have to accept the fact. We might

have destroyed the environment for these organisms, but it is their biological duty to either

 adapt, migrate, or parish due to their lower intelligence.

If the Chesapeake Bay were to deteriorate to the point of no marine life, due to pollution, I

 believe that through scientific research, and technology, we could turn this once

diminishing habitat, into a reserve of raw materials, such as fertilizer, as well as if put

under pressure we could create new fossil fuel, due to decaying matter being compressed

by pollutants being placed over it.

I am not an advocate to pollution and I am not asking people to pollute into the bay. The

fact is the pollution of the bay is a terrible thing, and that obsessive pollution is the cause

of the decline of the Chesapeake Bay's biodiversity, and that this is a sad fact. In order

for the bay to replenish to the splendors of previous years is to completely change our

efforts in preserving the bay. If we are to protect the bay, then we must take extreme

liberal action. Although it will cost money that we don't have, that is the only way to

replenish the bay. In my opinion spending this money would be a waste, due to constantly

advancing technology; we can find alternative methods of obtaining the benefits of the bay

elsewhere.  For example we could create small seafood farms, instead of relying on such a

decaying ecosystem.

The efforts of protecting and preserving the bay have been the same, and failing for the

past several years. Though the efforts of preservation might boost the number of

organisms living in the bay, the fact of the matter is in the long run; the efforts of

preservation are primitive and will not help in the long run. The Fact is the bay is constantly

being polluted and regardless of preservation techniques. So our best bet is to reap the

benefits of it now, and drain it for fertile land.

I know that this point of view places me in the eyes of many people as an antagonist, but

with all respect for your point of views, though we might loose a recreational watershed, at

 the same time we are bestowing our posterity with a new source of income, that may lower, or even diminish both the United States foreign oil usage, and may lower or completely eliminate the national debt, a feat that hasn’t been accomplished since before Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal.

 

 

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The MODERATOR SAYS wow.  You don't pull any punches, do you.  It is true that environmental issues can be reduced simply to values if you do not subscribe to "the greater good" or recognize that messing up the environment can come back to bite you in a big way.  Of course, when you say "we are the controllers of all other beings on this earth" it might be more accurate to say that we are able to harm many of the animals on earth but that also much of the life on earth is both oblivious to us and potentially harmful to us if we stupidly mess with the balance of life (as we do all the time now).  As for the costs of cleanup, I was about your age at the time of the first Earth Day.  At that time, many of our rivers were filthy, little more than open sewers carrying human, animal, and industrial waste.  One river, famously, even burst into flames.  The air in cities was increasingly unbreathable (people were dying) from a toxic brew of pollutants from factories and cars.  Millions of American people said "enough."  Industry said it would cost too much to cleanup, it would hurt their profits too much. But we all, together, created the environmental movement, and pushed politicians to make the changes in law that culminated in President Nixon signing the Clean Water Act and the Clean Air Act, and creating the Environmental Protection Agency.  The quality of your lives is immeasurably better as a result of the changes to law and attitudes that occurred then, and busiess, it turned out, did just fine. 

    From:   enviromental peeps - recreation - MslmnHS                                            Ask

                                                                                                                        4/20/2010

       If we can fix the bay and the water it will greatly help the people who catch and sell

       seafood and bait. People will be happy again.

 

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