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Comments to All Homeowners

 

Moderator (Frank) Comment:

All you homeowners will be interested in last Thursday's Kojo Nnamdi Show on National Public Radio. I learned a lot in an hour. Download the show at http://wamu.org/programs/kn/08/04/10.php#19310 . There are informational links on the same webpage. Kojo's guest, Paul Tukey, is an organic lawn care expert who founded Safe Lawns (www.safelawns.org) after being hospitalized because of a reaction to the chemicals he used to use in his business. Did you know lawn care is a 40 billion dollar industry and that "most" of that is spent on chemical products? Paul says that, per acre, lawn care produces ten times more pollution then farming. Lots of people who called in are trying to help the Bay by changing their habits. Its a great show!

 

 

  Bojangles - farmer - JWHS(T)

                                                                                                       4/11/2008

 These were some great ideas on how to control pollution. Totally agree.

 

  From:   farmer Steve - farmer - JWHS(F)                                                          Statement

                                                                                                                         4/14/2008

          You know alot about your paper but theres not really any answers.

 

Homeowner

The Greens                                                                                Massanutten Gov. S.-Newcomer

                                                                                                                                3/31/2008

Pollution in the Chesapeake Bay is a serious problem that affects not only the people and

animals living in and around the bay, but also people hundreds of miles away.  Many things

including farmers, factories, businesses and homeowners cause pollution in the bay.  There

are many things homeowners can do to help prevent further pollution, and reduce the

pollution to the Chesapeake Bay.  Without much change to their daily lives homeowners can

make a difference by using different methods for treating their lawn, conserving water,

and energy conservation.Fertilizers are used by many homeowners to make their lawns and

 gardens lush, green, and healthy.  However, fertilizers too often run off yards and

gardens with rain and watering and add excess nutrients to the bay.  These nutrients

encourage algae growth which in turn causes eutrophication, the quickened growth of

aquatic plants that occurs when fertilizers containing phosphorus and nitrogen run off into

lakes and ponds.  This then increases the plant death rate and the bacterial decomposition

from that uses up oxygen in the water, then causing fish and other organisms to suffocate.

Planting native vegetation creates less reliance upon fertilizers, which reduces the amount

of pollution and ultimately, benefits our health. Water conservation is also very important

for homeowners to do.  Some ways that water can be conserved in the home are using

water saving showerheads, faucets, toilets, and washing machines.  Another way to save

water, as disgusting as it may be, is to not flush the toilet after every use.  And even

another easy alternative would be to turn the tap off when washing your hands, as well as

brushing your teeth.  If watering your lawn is a necessity to you, it is most efficient to do

this either in the late evening or early morning; however it is best to eliminate this

completely, saving a vast amount of water. Water conservation is an easy way for

homeowners to improve the health of the bay.Finally, homeowners can conserve energy to

help improve the health of the bay. There are hundreds of ways to conserve energy, and

some are just a flick of the switch away. Using energy-saving materials such as fluorescent

light bulbs, low energy ceiling-fans, and energy star approved appliances not only conserves

energy but conserves your money.  Saving energy by using things such as fluorescent light

bulbs, energy star approved appliances, and even turning off the lights when they’re not

necessary helps to improve the health of the bay because fewer things need to be replaced

less frequently and therefore less energy is being put into the production of these products

 and there would be less industrial pollution.It is important for homeowners to do all they

can to help improve the bay.  Even their smallest efforts, such as fertilizing less or

correctly, switching to fluorescent bulbs, and water conserving appliances will make a

difference. The health of the Chesapeake Bay is very important to not only your health and

mine, but most importantly to future generations.

 

 

 

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Thoughtful Questions

  From:   fishies - CB_Ecosystem - MHS                                                     Ask

                                                                                             4/8/2008

            what are the different ways to clean up the bay?

  From:   Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS                                              Statement

                                                                                             4/8/2008

     I totally agree with your examples and ideas on how to conserve energy and at the

            same time reduce the pollutants that could flow into the water systems.

  From:   Muffins - developer - JHS                                                           Statement

                                                                                           4/10/2008

            I agree!!

  From:   Anti-Wilderness Progressive Movement - developer - JWHS(T)                Statement

                                                                                                                                 4/11/2008

     very good i thought you covered everything that was important in this

  From:   Chicken Kickers'' 101 - farmer - MHS                                                      Ask

                                                                                                                                 4/11/2008

     You said there were many ways to prevent pollution, but the main thing you kept mentioning

     was about saving energy. What else can you do?

       Response    The Greens - homeowner - MRGS

                                                                                                                      4/23/2008

             Homeowners can also help the bay by recycling and installing rain barrels under

             gutter drains.  You could then use the water for plants on dry days, instead of

             using s sprinkler system. Other ways to help would be to use very small amounts

             of fertilizers, if any, on your yard once a year if it is necessary.  Then make sure

              you spread it on a day when it is not calling for rain.

 

  From:   Chicken Kickers'' 101 - farmer - MHS                                                      Ask

                                                                                                                                 4/11/2008

     What is a water saving showerhead?

       Response    The Greens - homeowner - MRGS

                                                                                                                      4/21/2008

             Chicken Kicker,

                     A water saving showerhead, is in fact, a shower head that saves water.

 

  From:   fishies - CB_Ecosystem - MHS                                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                                4/11/2008

     how can the bay problems affect people?

  From:   Yellow Lemons - recreation - JWHS(T)                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                         4/17/2008

     Thats a great idea, but i dont really see what you are actually doing. You Asked a bunch

     of questions, but gave no results. I think if you would come up with some solutions it

     would be a better help to us all.

       Response    The Greens - homeowner - MRGS

                                                                                                                      4/23/2008

             In our paper we mentioned treating your lawn differently.  This would be

             fertilizing less or not at all, and using different watering methods, such as

             watering in the early morning, or not at all.  We also brought up water

             conservation by using water saving shower heads, faucets, toilets, and washing

             machines.  In addition to this, not flushing the toilet after every use, and turning

             off the tap when washing your hands, and brushing your teeth.  We also

             mentioned conserving energy such as using energy-saving materials (see paper),

             and turning off the lights as much as possible.  Along with that we included

             particular products you could use in your home that would save energy, such as

             energy star appliances.  These are all things that people can do to help better the

             bay.

 

 

 

 

 

Homeowner

 

Team Green                                                                                             Hampshire H.S.-Moore

                                                                                                                                  4/1/2008

The Chesapeake Bay has more to do with us than we think. The bay has a lot to do with the

economic, recreation, educational,  and cultural to the local 16, 000 people who live in the

watershed of the bay. After several years of pollutants the bay is becoming more and more

 in danger ever year. Almost 64, 000 miles of watershed is in serious trouble. Two of the

main threats on the watershed is nutrients and sediments. Theses pollutants come from our

yards and farms to help grow grass and grain. Scientists say these are the key things to

reduce to bring the bay back to health. People are getting together to find ideas and plans

to reduce the pollutants that will affect the community’s in the area for years to come.

Many of us here wonder how this can affect me directly? How could the solutions be

structured so your group would prosper as a result? What could be done that would make

your group more willing to participate? Will the solutions “cost” you in any demonstratable

way? What do you have to give up? All these questions are what you may think about, but

the only way to get anything done is to try and get other people interested in helping the

bay in any way possible. 

 

 

 

 

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Thoughtful Questions

  From:   fishies - CB_Ecosystem - MHS                                                     Statement

                                                                                             4/8/2008

          This paper points out many facts that people should be aware of. A major

     problem however, is that this paper does nto answer any questions, it only tells what

     the problems are. Addressing ways to fix these problems is a neccessity to this

     paper!

  From:   fishies - CB_Ecosystem - MHS                                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                            4/11/2008

     I can tell that you understand what some of the problems are, but do you know how to fix

     these problems?

     your POV paper doesn't show that you do...how can we fix all of these problems that you

            mentioned?

  From:   urban camo - developer - RHS                                                                 Ask

                                                                                                                         4/17/2008

     Your questions are goods ones. But bay clean up starts with you and each of us. Its

     something we can only do once we understand what the real problem is. I mean one

     should be involved first and then peek others intrest by cleaning the bay yourself and

     sitting an example.

  From:   The Greens - homeowner - MRGS                                                            Statement

                                                                                                                         4/23/2008

     I agree that you ask important questions, but you also need to give ways to clean up the

     bay.

  From:   The Greens - homeowner - MRGS                                                            Statement

                                                                                                                         4/23/2008

     You identify a few of the root problems of the bay, and scientific studies to support.

     When taking the point of a homeowner, how can we combat these problems and add

     relief to our current conditions? Convert your questions into statements on how we can

     fix our environmental problems and you'll have a very good paper.

 

 

 

 

 

Homeowner

 

Los Monos En Seda                                                                                 Hampshire H.S.-Moore

                                                                                                                                  4/1/2008

Well seeing as we own [or will own] land in The Watershed area it is important that we

would help to protect the water that would be a vital part of our environment and a

necessary asset to our lively-hood. Even if we would be a steadfast ward of river

protection problems would still persist things such as erosion and run off occur as the

property we as home owners purchase. Because the developers tend to not properly lay

cover crop or put up a boundary to prevent such occurrences. But all the blame can not be

placed upon them or any one group but on all equally for even if the farmer  doesn't lay a

buffer between the fertilized fields and the river the same things occur. If we would all

work together and cooperate as a community only then would an effective effort be placed

 against watershed pollution. If all of the different stakeholder groups would plant

buffers,and mount a more objective stance to erosion we could have a more stable stream

and river ecosystem in which the environment could rely on and help produce a more healthy

 watershed.

 

 

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Thoughtful Questions

  From:   We Care, As Long As You Care - developer - CHS                                   Statement

                                                                                                                                 4/11/2008

     You made a valid point by stating that all the stakeholder groups need to work together in

     order to reduce the pollution and increase the health of the Bay. However, I do not think

     that anywhere in your statement that you addressed how any changes could be suggested

     or fufilled by your group in particular.

  From:   The Calvert County Homewrecker! - homeowner - CHS                            Ask

                                                                                                                         4/14/2008

     As you questioned in my paper, what do you propose as the the solution to the problems?

       Response    Los Monos En Seda - homeowner - HHS

                                                                                                                      4/15/2008

             well as the last few sentances of our P.O.V. states we all need to plant buffers

             and mount a more objective stance on erosion to create a more stable and

             therfore reliable watershed

  From:   all natural - homeowner - RHS                                                                Statement

                                                                                                                         4/17/2008

     this thing is really wordy... alot of big words... but i still dont think it gets the point across

      try simple and informing instead of "smart" sounding next time

       Response    Los Monos En Seda - homeowner - HHS

                                                                                                                      4/23/2008

             I did not mean to use {large?} words that sounded smart, but that is how I speak

             and I simply typed the way it came to me in my mind and it simply sounded smart

             although the point was very simple.Since your statement was very nebulous as to

             what was difficult to determine what was said, so if you feel like you have any

            questions as to what i meant please feel free to ask ok?

 

  From:   Ecstatic Environmentalists - Other - MRGS                                            Statement

                                                                                                                         4/23/2008

     Um, I find your paper not informative at all. Just... whining. It would be good to research

      things about homeowners, what they contribute (good and bad) to the bay, and what

     they could do to help improve the health of the bay. Your paper is, in the end, about

            homeowners; not this invisible battle of blame you seem to embody your paper with.

  From:   Ecstatic Environmentalists - Other - MRGS                                            Statement

                                                                                                                         4/23/2008

     PS there are way more things you can do besides planting buffers; which are generally

     used by people who use alot of fertilizers, like farmers. (that doesn't mean it wouldn't

     be helpful in a backyard too :) )

 

 

 

 

Homeowner

WaterQualityControlGroup                                                                     Jefferson H.S.-Gipson

                                                                                                                                  4/2/2008

WE are impotant because we are the future generation and everything we do can impact us

tomarrow. The Bays problemsaffect us because we alluse the water, and our fish are dieing

 while weare sitting around and just polluting the water. Someof thedifferent things we

would suggestarehiring gruops of volunteers to clean the Bay. And the major should draw

attention to this matter. It could cost us by tax dollars. But we pay taxesfor everything

else we could pay for something that actualy matters and could affect us. Yes it would help

 us in the future becuase we are on the Bays watershed. Some things that would make us

want to do more is to actualy be able to work to clean the Bay with a group that is allready

their. If we could get a ride thier. We think that if the Bay is not cleaned up fast it will

affect more than we want it to. We should do evberything we can to make sure that this is

done.

 

 

 

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Thoughtful Questions

 

  From:   Los Monos En Seda - homeowner - HHS                                      Statement

                                                                                             4/7/2008

     I think you had some good points regarding the bay's pollution among other problems.

      However, it would be easier to understand if you could change your grammatical

     errors.

  From:   DORY-DORY FISH - Waterman - MHS                                        Ask

                                                                                             4/8/2008

     you ladies can't really spell that well but you make good points. But one question, we

     may be the future generation, but why should we care if the previous generations

            didn't care?

  From:   Fisher Man - Waterman - JWHS(F)                                             Ask

                                                                                           4/10/2008

     What is your problem? Why did you write so much?

  From:   We Care, As Long As You Care - developer - CHS                                   Ask

                                                                                                                              4/11/2008

     "dieing"

     ??

  From:   SAVinators - CBP_Fed - MdSA                                                               Ask

                                                                                                                         4/16/2008

     I totally understand your point about getting volunteers to help out and also about using

     our tax dollars for something that would make a positive difference but you don't need

     to hire/ pay volunteers that defeats the purpose of them volunteering. If you have

            people willing to volunteer you can use tax money for other aspects of Bay clean-up.

       Response    the farms JW - farmer - JWHS(F)

                                                                                                                      4/22/2008

              I totally understand your point about getting volunteers to help out

 

  From:   Because we said so. - local_gov - JWHS(T)                                           Statement

                                                                                                                         4/25/2008

     I like your idea about getting volunteers, but you should work on your grammar and

     spelling.

 

 

 

Homeowner

Home Jackets                                                                                        Moorefield H.S.-Gillies

                                                                                                                                  4/3/2008

       Homeowners are among the most important groups that affect and are affectedby

the Chesapeake Bay Watershed. By sheer statistics homeowners represent the largest

faction of affected stakeholders. There are currently about 16 million people that are living

 in the Chesapeake Bay Watershed area and its simple logic that its the homeowners that

will have the largest impact on assisting in the clean up of the Chesapeake Bay region and

it's surrounding areas. It is very likely that as homeowners we will have to be the driving

force during the clean up  of the Chesapeake Watershed system. As homeowners we may

not be the most affected by the pollution but we certainly do contribute to it and by doing

so we threaten not only our health but also the health of others. It only makes sense that

we should do something, anything to initiate and speed ukp the removal of toxic pollutants in

 not only our surrounding rivers but our drinking water too. The longer we stand by the

more irreversable the damage to our water systems will become. Already cancers, disease

and other illnesses are spreading and its all due to the deplorable water quality that we

have allowed to drop so low. We homeowners are essentialy the backbone of the

Chesapeake Bay watershed program. Without our full support and aid nothing can be

accomplished and this is why homeowners are an important factor in the program.

 

I would prefer is to help out with keeping the water clear, homeowner like to have clear

water in there houses. Tell other people to help out to keep the water clear we would like to

 have harlthy fish too. It will be really nice to keep the water clear it make people really

happy. If we can keep the water clear, we can be more harlthy and people sewm in the river

 and they like a harlthy river and the fishman like harlthy fish too that's why it is inpont to

keep the river's clear. It would be really nice if people can help with clearing the river's, we

 what people to help it well be really cool and nice to keep the river clear. If you can try to

help out keeping the river clear, and we would be much more harlthy if the river was clear.

    

 The affects of the possible solutions for the Chesapeake bay worse many homeowners,

buffer zones would take away useful land, fuel efficient cars will have less horsepower and

 torche, and strict regulations may govern our lives. But the same solutions can also benefit

our lives. The grass and forest buffers add a hint of nature back to our lives and privacy

back to our favorite fishing holes. The fuel efficient cars (which are essential to lower

emissons which put nitrogen into the air and from the air to the water)will save you a ton of

 money on gas, and with the short wheel base makes them better for stop and start trafic

found in most cities, just don't take it off road. car pooling will be a big help in slowing

down air pollution, and if all else fails, there's the trided and true horse. the regulations

that will be enforced will most likely concern saving water and energy, for example doing

away with incandesent bulbs and replacing them with compact florasent balbs, also the use

of hazardous waste (i.e. amona, aintifreze) will probly be controled witch will make it more

difaclt to get cleaning supplies, makeing us go back to old home remedys such as baking

soda and lemon juice.    
 

It effects everyone, and improvement is needed. There are many ways to minimize the

effects, but I want to discuss what causes pollution and how it affects us.      'Water

pollution occurs when harmful substances enter the water supply.' There are many water

pollutants, but the three most common sources are:  Agricultural, Industrial, and Municipal.

These cause a chain reaction. The more chemicals Agricultural and Industry sources

produce, the more stress in placed on Municipal water treatment facilities!      Water

treatment starts to become a problem, and it affects our health. Water treatment facilities

 don't filter many chemicals, and in numerous US cities there were 141 chemicals that went

unregulated. There are even Industries that are pumping chemicals into deep underground

water. Also, the Chlorine used to disinfecate is considered a health threat.      Let's talk

about fish. Whenever the chemicals go unfiltered, the fish (and other aquatic animals)

suffer. Birth-Control Pills are causing male fish to carry eggs. Perfume and Cologne

molecules have been found in fish tissues. The mind-blowing thing is, We're eating these

fish!!! The higher up on the food chain, the more toxic they become.      Water pollution

affects us economically too. Pollutants cause "dead zones" in the ocean. Unfortunately, the

"dead zones" are growing, and there is the ever-growing threat of extinction. The algae

blooms are killing many fish. Without the fish, many people will starting losing their jobs!!!

Work's Cited Page

1) http://www.grinningplanet.com/2006/12-05/water-pollution-effects.htm

2) http://www.grinningplanet.com/2005/09-06/water-

 

 

 

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Thoughtful Questions

  From:   Foggy - recreation - HHS                                                             Ask

                                                                                           4/10/2008

     What is your opinion about the chicken factory dumping waste into the river? Our

     opinion is that this is irresponsible action that not only the people living down stream

     should care about.

       Response    Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS

                                                                                                              4/11/2008

             I agree, it is irresponsible, and we believe it's illegal. Although, we are

             homeowner's not farmers.

       Response    Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS

                                                                                                              4/11/2008

             The river here the male fish here are having egg's. It's from the plant down

             here it is really bad.

  From:   DEVELOPERS MISION JW - developer - JWHS(F)                               Ask

                                                                                                                         4/15/2008

          What are you going to do about the Bay ya we need to keep the Bay clean?!?!?

       Response    Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS

                                                                                                                      4/17/2008

            We mentioned keeping the bay clean, that's what the report was about.

 

 

 

 

Homeowner

Helpful homeowners                                                                              Buffalo Gap H.S.-Riley

                                                                                                                                 4/3/2008

We the home owners have some suggestions for the Chesapeake Bay clean up plan. We

think there should be away for us to use fertilizer and keep the bay clean too. So we think

that ever yard on the water should have a drainage ditch at the end of the yard that leads

to the sewers. That’s what we suggest to help clean up the bay. We also have an idea for

raising the money for it. We think that we should hold a save the bay marathon. We should

also make it where people that live far away should to have a nutrient management plan to

help reduce pollution.

 

 

 

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Thoughtful Questions

  From:   DORY-DORY FISH - Waterman - MHS                                                      Ask

                                                                                                                               4/11/2008

     But doesnt the waste that goes into the sewers eventually end up in the Bay at the end? The

      save the Bay marathon is a good idea and you could also set up a meeting to tell the

            community about how they can do their part to clean up the Bay.

  From:   fishies - CB_Ecosystem - MHS                                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                             4/11/2008

     Do you have any other plans to help the bay?

  From:   Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS                                                         Ask

                                                                                                                         4/15/2008

     There wasn't much information; I was hoping to see more ways homeowners can reduce

     pollution.

  From:   Chesapeake Cottage Dwellers - homeowner - MdSA                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/16/2008

     i like the concept of the drainage dicth but is it a good idea to have exposed sewer lines

     and wouldnt it add to the amount of stuff going into the treatment plants? can you

     really make enough money for everyone to have one? wouldn't it also involve tearing up

     the yard, causing erosion, and for some properties tearing up the shoreline?

       Response    Helpful homeowners - homeowner - BGHS

                                                                                                                      4/25/2008

             We would make it where you would not have to get the drainage thing done if

             they did not want to tear up your yard. I would make sure the sewage got

             filtered or what ever. I  would also sell lemonade, cookies, and other things to

             raise money to save the bay.

 

  From:   The Pearls - local_gov - MdSA                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/16/2008

     personally, i think it would be super hard tp raise that kind of money for every home

     owner...and as government, it would affect us to because we would need to supply money

      to to make sure that every single drain went to the sewers and to keep up the conditions

      of the drains....plus the sewer systems are not always the best solutions especially if

     they leak...

  From:   all natural - homeowner - RHS                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/17/2008

     in the end even water in a drain ditch goes into the water system any way. it may not go

     directly to the bay it could just go to a little stream first but eventually that will lead to

     a river and that could possibly lead to our bay. your idea of a marathon is a good idea,

     just make sure you get it okayed with your county in which you live in. yet for that to

     help raise the money how much or who would pay for the marathon to help.

  From:   all natural - homeowner - RHS                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/18/2008

     Have you considered bayscaping as a way to help?

  From:   Bojangles - farmer - JWHS(T)                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/21/2008

     Your plan weakly outlines several ideas. Can you give any more information on how a

     HOMEOWNER can accomplish the goal of cleaning up the bay and how they will do that?

      Fertilizer seems like more of a problem with farmers than homeowners.

  From:   The Blind Anteater - CB_Ecosystem - JWHS(T)                                    Statement

                                                                                                                         4/23/2008

     that would be a good idea if u use draining for your area, and the fundrasier would by a

     good thing also.

 

 

 

Homeowner

S.H.A                                                                                                     Jefferson H.S.-Gipson

                                                                                                                                  4/4/2008

    We are important because we pay taxes which goes toward government jobs.  Also we

live near the watershed and can affect what can go into it.  The bay's pollution can can get

into our water and it is a medium for the pollutants.  It affects our liveihood first of all

because we drink it and we eat the fish that comes from the water.  They should use our

tax money to go toward cleaning up the mess.  We would have to give up our tax money. 

No, because its gonna stay the same as it was but we will have to give up more than what we

 thought we wold have to give up.  Not as much as we thought whit would but it might alittle

bit.  To clean up more around the rivers and ladfill.

 

 

 

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Thoughtful Questions

 

  From:   Team Green - homeowner - HHS                                                  Ask

                                                                                             4/7/2008

     Why do you think that you will have to give up more than you thought you would?

  From:   DORY-DORY FISH - Waterman - MHS                                        Ask

                                                                                             4/8/2008

     Shouldn’t it be, in part, the homeowners’ duty to pay for a portion of the mess since

     they are responsible for some of it?

     In what ways can tax payers improve the use of where their money goes to better

     the environment? How could paying taxes increase the likelihood of people staying

            healthy?

  From:   Fish's Wishes - CB_Ecosystem - KHS(K)                                      Ask

                                                                                           4/10/2008

     If paying more taxes will help to clean up the Chesapeake Bay and help keep the

     drinking water clean don’t you think it’ll be worth it in the long run? The clean up

     can’t just happen with imaginary money, it has to come from somewhere and those of

      us who really want to make it safe should be willing to give a little in order to get a

     lot.

  From:   FAB Hunters - recreation - KHS(K)                                              Ask

                                                                                           4/10/2008

     I dont understand your last five sentences where you agree to give tax money and

     then you say we shouldnt give tax money, and the last sentence makes absolutely no

            sense.  Pleas re-write statement. 

  From:   Bojangles - farmer - JWHS(T)                                                                Statement

                                                                                                                         4/15/2008

     ok this is a pretty terrible POV. you don't really have any solutions to help the bay and

     you contradict your own ideas by using tax money to clean the bay but you're not willing

     to pay extra taxes to help. i think you just need to rewrite the entire thing.

  From:   Because we said so. - local_gov - JWHS(T)                                           Statement

                                                                                                                         4/15/2008

     i dont really understand what you're trying to say in your statement.  you contradict

     yourself, you say you are willing to give up your tax money to help with the clean up but

     then you say it will stay the same and give up more than you thought? more than you

     thought? what do you mean? also, your last few sentances dont make any sense. another

      thing, you, as a homeowner, also pollute the bay just like everyone else. what can you do

             to limit your own pollution?

 

  From:   Chesapeake Cottage Dwellers - homeowner - MdSA                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/16/2008

     It would be very helpful if the tax money went to helping the Bay, but what if the

     government decides that there are other things that would benefit from our money and

     feel that it would be more sufficient to use the money elsewhere? Can you think of any

     other ways that the homeowners can directly help the restoration effort?

  From:   The Pearls - local_gov - MdSA                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/16/2008

     uhm well we cant use all your money to clean up the bay...we do use some but there are

     other issues in the world that need help too...and you dont have to give up more than you

     already are as long as we are here to regulate it

 

 

 

 

 

Homeowner

S.E.E.K.                                                                                                Hampshire H.S.-Moore

                                                                                                                                 4/7/2008

If we pollute the bay, we can't fish.  If we can't fish, we'll miss out on many fishy POV:

appetizers.  The Chesapeake Bay is very important to homeowners because we have

somewhere safe to take family and friends to hang out and have fun.  We, as homeowners,

enjoy seeing the wildlife present at the Bay.  If we don't stop polluting the Bay, the wildlife

 has a great chance of ceasing to exist.  We need to make a change by reducing the use of

harmful fertilizers and substances that run off into the water.  Alternatives need to be

offered for homeowners to use while taking care of their property.  Some alternatives

could include fertilizers with less pesticides and insecticides.  Silk fences are another way

for homeowners to prevent polluting the Bay.

 

 

 

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  From:   DORY-DORY FISH - Waterman - MHS                                        Ask

                                                                                             4/8/2008

     Oil and other liquids can run off of your driveway and run down into the sewer and

     end up into the stream. What would you tell people to help control the amount of

            liquids that pour into the bay?

       Response    S.E.E.K. - homeowner - HHS

                                                                                       4/10/2008       8:04:00 AM

             Well, DORY-DORY FISH, in response to your question, oil pads are available

             for people to place under their vehicles to prevent the oil from running down

             the driveway.  These pads can also be used for other outside projects

             around the house to prevent pollution.  Oil pads are decently cheap ($88/100

              pads), and can be seen as a little sacrifice compared to the big expense that

             pollution would cause.

  From:   DORY-DORY FISH - Waterman - MHS                                                      Ask

                                                                                                                            4/11/2008

     Do YOU have any oil pads? if you don't are you going to go get some? because that would

     mean that you are contributing to the cause. How will you dispose of them?

       Response    S.E.E.K. - homeowner - HHS

                                                                                                                      4/15/2008

             Yes, I do have oil pads.  I have one for every car in my driveway, and they are

             very effective.  I dispose of them by taking them to an "oil recycling plant" type

             thing, where they recycle the oil stored in the pads.  I don't know what they do

             with the pads afterwards.

  From:   DORY-DORY FISH - Waterman - MHS                                                   Statement

                                                                                                                         4/17/2008

     were is this "oil recycling plant" you take your pads to? i'd like to know and where can

     you get these lovely little pads? and do you really think that people are going to buy your

      pads?

       Response    S.E.E.K. - homeowner - HHS

                                                                                                                      4/23/2008

             I thought my parents took them to a plant, but they actually take them to

             Advance Auto Parts.  They recycle the oil, but I still don't know what they do

             with the pads.  You can also get the pads at most Wal-marts, Advance Auto Parts,

              or online.  Online is where we got the price for one of our earlier responses.

 

  From:   Ecstatic Environmentalists - Other - MRGS                                            Statement

                                                                                                                         4/23/2008

     DORY-DORY FISH,

     the pads are not "his", they available for sale in some stores and over the internet. (i

     suggest checking local stores over the net before going out searching)

     S.E.E.K.,

     the oil pads would have been a great example to put in your paper!  :D

 

  From:   Ecstatic Environmentalists - Other - MRGS                                            Statement

                                                                                                                         4/23/2008

     Silk fences? Cool. I've never heard of that before.

     Your paper could use some fattening up :) (i.e.- develop your points more)

 

 

 

 

 

Homeowner

 

Bayfront Property Owner's of the Chesapeake                                          Calvert H.S.-Gustin

                                                                                                                                 4/8/2008

As Bayfront property owners we paid a substantial amount of money for our exclusive

waterfront property on the Chesapeake, and when it becomes polluted our property is

devaulued as well. While we do believe in protecting the bay, our first priority is our

investment in our homes. We do not feel that we should have to move our homes simply

because we live near the coast of the Chesapeake. It goes against our rights as citizens of

the United States to be told where to live. However we are willing to work with Bay

Conservationists to prevent possible pollutants that may come from our property and enter

the bay ecosystems. We are open to any solution that does not involve us, as homeowners

moving away from the the Chesapeake.

 

 

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  From:   K.A. Recreation Crew - recreation - MdSA                                            Ask

                                                                                                                         4/16/2008

     I agree that you do pay alot of money to live on the Bay. You said that your house

     investment was your first priority and that you did not want to move. Since you care

            about your house so much what solutions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Homeowner

Miles away from Colton                                                                              Calvert H.S.-Gustin

                                                                                                                                 4/8/2008

Revised. 4/9/08

As homeowners in Chesapeake Bay region, we are affected by the many changes in the bay

which we have seen over the years. The biggest change we have observed is how much the

pollution in the bay area has increased, and how the water clarity has become more than

sub-par. The main reason that we decided to live in the bay region was for the beautiful

scenery and the and the multitude of things to do on the water, but as the pollution has

increased and the ecosystems have deteriorated we can no longer take pride in our home.

We can no longer drive our boats through the water without seeing a piece of trash, and it

is becoming harder and harder to find any fish, or crabs. It has now become something of

a hazard to go tubing or wake-boarding in the bay because oftentimes we will get hit by

floating debris. The easiest way to clean our bay would be simply to put some effort into it.

 In order to regenearate the Crab population, we need to stop crabbing. In order to let the

 oyster population recover, we need to put back more than we take out, or just stop taking

them. Simply put, we need to to just think about what's more important to us: the bay, or

what we can make off of it. We would like to be able to enjoy the bay as we used to, and

not have to worry anymore.

 

 

 

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  From:   Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS                                                            Statement

                                                                                                                                 4/11/2008

     We shouldn't stop crabbing completely, just restrict it a little bit.

       Response    Miles away from Colton - homeowner - CHS

                                                                                                                      4/14/2008

             Why not stop crabbing? Although it would put alot of people out of jobs, in a few

             years at the current rate of capture it will happen anyway. We capture crabs at

             a faster rate than they can reproduces. Numbers will show that there have been

             huge drops in crab numbers since their historic levels, and soon their situation will

             be the same as the Diamondback Terrapins was before there was a moratorium 

             declared on them.

  From:   Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS                                                         Statement

                                                                                                                         4/15/2008

     If I'm not mistaken, I never said keep crabbing at the current rate. I said to restrict it

     (i.e. cutting back on it). It will affect the economy (meaning people will lose jobs), and

     that will affect a lot of the people who eat crab.

       Response    Miles away from Colton - homeowner - CHS

                                                                                                                      4/18/2008

             I believe that is more or less what i said. The only response that i ca think to give

             is to reiterate what i said in my first response,Although it would put alot of people

              out of jobs, in a few years at the current rate of capture it will happen anyway.

             We capture crabs at a faster rate than they can reproduces. Numbers will show

             that there have been huge drops in crab numbers since their historic levels, and

             soon their situation will be the same as the Diamondback Terrapins was before

             there was a moratorium declared on them.

 

 

  From:   We Care, As Long As You Care - developer - CHS                                   Statement

                                                                                                                                 4/11/2008

     I like how you have recognized the affect that homeowners have on the Chesapeake Bay

     and some solutions that would possibly regenerate crab and oyster populations. However,

     you failed to suggest ways to limit the sedimention and the excess of nitrogen and

     phosphorus that are two major types of pollution of the Bay.

 

 

 

Homeowner

 

Home Owners 8                                                                               James Wood H.S.-Fordyce

                                                                                                                                 4/8/2008

  The homeowners of the Chesapeake Bay are important to the watershed for many

different reasons the most important reason is that the homeowners are going to have to

be responsible for cleaning up the watershed to keep and to prevent further damage

happening to it. The bays fish are dying from pollution from not properly disposing of waste

 and from the effects of the average home owner. Every homeowner pollutes and no one is

 caring about the damage on the ecosystem. The more the population grow the more

pollution and damage to they water shed is done. I think the homeowner should for an

association and meet up and help find and figure out different ways to help restore the

watershed before it’s too late.

 

 

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  From:   S.E.E.K. - homeowner - HHS                                                       Ask

                                                                                           4/10/2008

     We were just wondering how you think we could help restore the watershed.  You

     gave no real solutions in your POV other than to form an association to figure out

            solutions.  If you were a member of the association, what ideas would you have?

  From:   Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS                                                            Statement

                                                                                                                                4/11/2008

     I agree with you about the meeting, but you didn't mention what we can do to help.

 

 

 

 

Homeowner

 

JUBHUB                                                                                          James Wood H.S.-Fordyce

                                                                                                                                 4/8/2008

  I am a home owner near the Chesapeake Bay. I don’t like the condition the bay is in as a

homeowner. I think governor Snapp should do something about it. Right now the bay is in

bad shape. I don’t have clean water to drink. I think somebody should clean it up. We pay

taxes and I think some of our tax money should go into cleaning it so the homeowners and

the people around will have clean water to drink. If the government doesn’t do anything to

clean it up I should start a group of volunteers to help because I am tired of not having

clean water to drink. There are two rivers that flow into the Chesapeake Bay one is the

Potomac and the other one is the Shenandoah. I think if they kept the rivers clean it will

help with the Chesapeake Bay a little but not a lot I don’t think.  

The Chesapeake clean up is pretty expensive it cost about six million dollars just for

filtration of the water and that’s just one little part of the whole problem the Chesapeake

Bay has.

 

 

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  From:   Shenandoah Junction Farmers Inc. - farmer - JHS                   Ask

                                                                                           4/10/2008

     If you think this is a problem, what can you do to impact the bay?

  From:   Miles away from Colton - homeowner - CHS                                Ask

                                                                                           4/10/2008

     After reading your POV we have to wonder who is Governor Snapp? How can

     Governor Snapp help the problem? What makes your drinking water dirty? By the

     way there are over 100 major rivers and streams that flow into the Chesapeake Bay,

      if we keep all of them clean then we won't have as big of a problem.

 

  From:   Muffins - developer - JHS                                                                         Statement

                                                                                                                                  4/11/2008

            yes

  From:   The Greens - homeowner - MRGS                                                            Statement

                                                                                                                         4/23/2008

     We also are wondering who Governor Snapp is.  The Shenandoah River flows into the

     Potomac River, not the Chesapeake Bay.  Also, there are five major rivers that flow into

     the bay - Potomac, Rappahannock, York, James, and the Susquehanna.

 

 

 

Homeowner

The Calvert County Homewrecker!     Rev 4/10/08                                        Calvert H.S.-Gustin

                                                                                                                                 4/9/2008

REVISED 4/14/08 

     Being of a Calvert County resident, I have found the need for change and the need for

reform of the Chesapeake Bay. Pollution has swept the bay during the past few years and

has impacted the lives of the people and the animals within the ecosystem.

     Although we may not be the only reason for this pollution, homeowners have the

greatest ability to assist the cleaning of the watershed. The greatest means of pollution is

nitrogen pollution which comes from sewage treatment plants, agriculture, large-scale

animal operations and air pollutions resulting from vehicle exhaust and smoke stacks from

power plants. Other means of pollution come from septic systems, roadway runoff,

development areas, and lawn fertilizers. We, as citizens, have the right to a clean bay area,

 which has been prevented by these stated reasons.

     During your daily routines, simple yet mindless means of prevention can start the great

change in the Chesapeake Bay. To lower the amount of nitrogen pollution, you must use less

energy, which will then emit less of a demand from power plants surrounding the bay. Make

 sure to turn off lights when they are not in use and trying to conserve gas by means such

as carpooling or reducing unnecessary trips will lower the emissions rate for nitrogen borne

 air pollution.

     To be continued..

 

 

 

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  From:   Los Monos En Seda - homeowner - HHS                                      Ask

                                                                                           4/10/2008

     Ok well it is a good thing to acknowledge that there is a problem but what do you

     suggest as a solution to help correct the situation?

 

       Response    Bojangles - farmer - JWHS(T)

                                                                                                                      4/15/2008

             You made a good point about what causes or where the pollution is coming form

             but you dont say what other people can do to help the enviroment.

 

 

 

 

Homeowner

Chesapeake Cottage Dwellers                                                       Mount de Sales Acad.-Sargo

                                                                                                                               4/14/2008

     Some of the effects of the pollution of the Bay that affect us are no healthy food or

water from the Bay, land slowly being destroyed, and homeowners on the waterfront being

 forced to move inland. We know that as homeowners we are part of the problem but some

 of the things that we do to help the Bay include using solar powered energy, using non-

nitrogen based fertilizers,using native plants and natural shorelines, recycling, and water

saving appliances.

     These problems affect us both financially and environmentally. The financial problems

include high cost fertilizers, expensive water saving appliances, and high taxes, especially on

 the waterfront properties. The environmental costs include high priced fish and crabs

during poor harvest seasons. The benefits of our efforts to improve the Bay would include

more food to eat, a nicer environment, and better water and cleaner air for everybody. We

 sacrifice by limiting water and fertilizer use and buying more expensive fertilizer for a

better environment.

     We also are involved in other organizations that promote the health of the Bay. We can

donate our time and money to help advertise the importance of the Bay.

 

 

 

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  From:   The Pearls - local_gov - MdSA                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/16/2008

     I think that your POV was well written and included all the basic points. Is there anyway

     for taxpayers who spend more money on less harmful fertilizers and such can receive a

     tax break?

  From:   Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS                                                         Ask

                                                                                                                         4/17/2008

     I like your POV. You name a lot of different ways we can help save the environment, but

      I would have liked to have seen a little more information.

  From:   the farms JW - farmer - JWHS(F)                                                       Statement

                                                                                                                         4/22/2008

     i like it, its rally good !!!

 

 

 

Homeowner

all natural                                                                                         Rappahannock H.S.-Settle

                                                                                                                               4/15/2008

      We live in the Chesapeake Bay watershed which spreads over 64,000 miles and covers POV:

six states.  The watershed covers Delaware, Maryland, New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia,

West Virginia, and the District of Columbia. As apart of the Chesapeake Bay watershed

there are many things we can do to “save the bay”.  We do many things in our homes that

hurt the bay. And there are many things we can do to reduce the amount of pollution in the

bay.

       Some things homeowners can do are conserve water, have septic tanks emptied every

3-5 years, properly dispose of motor oil and paint thinners, and using green works cleaning

products which are biodegradable.

       We can also use bayscaping. Bayscaping is a variety of landscaping techniques that

incorporate creating diversity, conserving water, and using beneficial plants. A balance of

native plants will provide food and cover. Bayscaping is very cost effective and is a good

long term investment.  Water should be used wisely while Bayscaping.

     The quality of the water used should be managed through the use of vegetative erosion

control, rain water collection, and buffer zones along drainage routes.  While bayscaping it

is better to fertilize in the fall.  Fertilizing in the spring when it is rainy will result in run

off.  The run off fertilizers will run into the bay and cause eutrophication.  Algae will

increase and this will harm the fish and blue crab populations.  A compost pile will reduce

sediment and lesson chance of erosion. This can be used as natural fertilizer that is safer

for our plants and water. Before you put a chemical fertilizer down you should test your oil

 to make sure its safe to use. Ways of Bayscaping are stream bank plantings, Dry laid,

stonewall, water gardens, trees, ground covers, and planting islands. Planting Islands

consist of a mix of trees shrubs and ground covers that reduce lawn mowing, fertilizer,

herbicide, and pesticide use.

     Homeowners who have pets can help by collecting their wastes. By doing so runoff

pollutants can be reduced. Car washing should be done on the grass so the water can filter

through the ground. Away to conserve water are rain barrels. The water collected in rain

barrels can be used to water plants and gardens.

     These are many things Homeowners can do to "Save the Bay". If all these things are

done the amount of pollution in the bay will decrease and the populations of bay species will

 grow. Please consider all these things and try them.

 

www.fourwindsdesign.net

www.vbgov.com

www.chesapeakebay.net

www.alliancechesbay.org

www.bayjournal.com

www.fws.gov

 

 

 

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  From:   Because we said so. - local_gov - JWHS(T)                                           Statement

                                                                                                                         4/17/2008

     I like the idea of the landscaping. It could be very decorative and fun. It seems like

     there are many things that you can do with it to cut down on the pollution. Some things

     make take some time and money but in the end it will pay off and you will have nice

            lanpscaping and a healither yard.

  From:   Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS                                                         Statement

                                                                                                                         4/17/2008

     I really like this, you've done your research AND cited your work. Nice job. =]

 

 

 

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