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farmers of berkely county                                                                                Musselman HS

                                                                                                                                3/19/2012

Farmers have a very important role on the cleanup and the pollution of the Chesapeake Bay

 Ecosystem. Farmers use a large quantity of fertilizer and pesticides to help their crops

grow. Although they are important to the lifestyle of the farmers, fertilizers and

pesticides need to be reduced in order to help solve the pollution issue. The question is, how

 do we reduce the amount of fertilizers and pesticides used and grow healthy crops?

 

  Fertilizers are a large part of the lives of a farmer. They are spread amongst fields to

give the soil nutrients it needs to grow better crops. If a farmer cannot grow good crops,

how will they make a profit to support their families and where would our food come from?

 Farmers use fertilizer because it a recyclable item and doesn't cost very much money and

 is easy to come by if you own animals.

 

  Farmers use pesticides to spray the leaves of their crops to keep animals and insects

from eating them. Deer and rabbits are the biggest plant eaters that farmers run into.

Many different varieties of insects feed on the plants and seeds of the crops. If farmers

do not spray their crops and keep the animals away, they won't have crops to harvest

because they will all be eaten.

 

  Although fertilizer is helpful to the farmers, it isn't so helpful to the Chesapeake Bay.

Fertilizer is a high source of nitrogen. High nitrogen levels cause algae to grow over the

water. When algae grow over the water, oxygen has no way of entering the water to help

the plants grow or the fish breathe. When the plants on the bottom of the bay die, the fish

not only loose oxygen but they loose their food too. Eventually, the fish will die off and

their will be no life in the bay.

 

  Pesticides may help to keep the insects and animals away from the plants, but it also

affects the water and animals that live in the water. When it rains or the plants get wet

the pesticide runs off into the ground. Where does it go from there? Well it flows into the

streams and rivers around the area. From there it flows into the Chesapeake and all of the

chemicals end up in the water. The chemicals in the pesticides kill off the plants and aquatic

 life in the bay.

 

  One way to reduce the pollution of the fertilizers and pesticides is to build control ponds

around the farmers land and to also plant more trees and plants around the bay. The truth

is, we can't eliminate the use of fertilizers and pesticides because without them our plants

wouldn't grow, farmers wouldn't make a profit, and we wouldn't have crops to eat.

Reducing the amount of pollution in the bay is important but fertilizers are important in

everyday life too.

 

 

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    From:   Dudley Squatters - homeowner - MslmnHS                                             Ask

                                                                                                                        3/28/2012

       While you say you plan to build control ponds, have you considered who will sponsor the

        payment of this? It's probably best to keep it out of the taxpayer's hands.

    From:   Wilderness Tours - recreation - MslmnHS                                              Ask

                                                                                                                        3/29/2012

       pesticide is leathal

    From:   Wilderness Tours - recreation - MslmnHS                                              Ask

                                                                                                                        3/29/2012

       You have a good point that farms are important but,tell us more about what you can do

        to help the economy

    From:   Wilderness Tours - recreation - MslmnHS                                              Ask

                                                                                                                        3/29/2012

       You have a good point that farms are important but,tell us more about what you can do

        to help the economy

    From:   G&M Farming - farmer - MslmnHS                                                          Ask

                                                                                                                        4/3/2012

       The pesticides cause the bugs to stay away, but you could put a fence up to stop the

       animals from eating the crops.

 

 

 

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LMS Cattle Productions                                                                                    Musselman HS

                                                                                                                               3/20/2012

As farmers of Berkeley County we have a responsibility to uphold a clean ecosystem. It is

hard for us to keep our ecosystem clean when our cattle are so close to the streams. Some

 people want us to put up special fences to keep our calves out of the water. The fence

they want us to put up however it's very expensive and it takes a lot of work to put up. It

would be nice if we could get some financial assistance.

 

As Albert Todd said, "It is a very big watershed and we all have to play a part."  In order

for everyone to play a part it would be nice if we could have better guidance for what they

 wanted us to do. They also don't want us to put pesticides on our crops because when it

rains it runs off into the streams and the fish die. How to people expect to get a good yield

 of crops when the bugs are eating all the crops. I believe in the future of agriculture in

order to keep agriculture strong in this country we must be able to take necessary risks in

our environment. Some people may not agree with our point of view.

 

When we spread fertilizer in our fields people drive by and complain about the smell. They

don't realize that bad smell helps put vegetables on their plates. If they want us to change

the way we fertilize our fields maybe we could work together and find out a new way to

fertilize our crops. There are many alternatives to putting manure in our fields but that is

the easiest and least expensive way to fertilize our fields. If there were a cheaper and

effective way to fertilize our crops we would be very open to try it in our fields.

 

Back to the cattle situation, there is no way to manage the methane gases that come from

our cattle. It doesn't matter what kind of fence you put up if a cow wants to get to the

water they will go through the fence to get to the water. The only way we could manage

the pollution in the watershed is if we were to dam the creeks to minimize the polluted

water flow. If we were to dam the creeks we have to put in ponds in our fields as a

permanent water source. It takes a lot of manpower, money, and time to put in a decent

pond for a herd of cattle. 

 

It is going to be very expensive and very difficult to help stop pollution in our streams. We

use a lot of hazardous chemicals and nitrogen filled pesticides to keep our crops in good

shape for the public. If we didn't put the chemicals on the crops, animal and bugs would

destroy the crops and there will be nothing for us to sell. That will be bad for farmers

because we won't have any money to make crops next year. It would be bad for people

because crops will be expensive and in short supply.

 

Overall it may be difficult, it may be expensive, it may put people in a bad mood but it has

to be done to help save our environment so our children will be able to enjoy the same farm

life we do today. Its going to take a lot of work but we can do it together as a nation we

can save this problem that we created before it gets too much more out of hand. The

money that's a problem in itself, the farmers are poor, the people are poor, and the

government does not have the money to help us sufficiently. We will have to find a way to do it ourselves there have been many generations of Americans who have solved much bigger problems, we need to show that we can fix a few ourselves. Thank you for listening to what we think about our watershed.

 

 

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    From:   G&M Farming - farmer - MslmnHS                                                          Ask

                                                                                                                        4/3/2012

       You make a very valid point about the finacal burden of the fencing.

 

 

 

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farmersss                                                                                                           Musselman HS

                                                                                                                                3/21/2012

Farmers are very important to the life of the Chesapeake Bay. They influence very much POV:

on the land and water. They use pesticides and fertilizers on their farm. Pesticides are

used to spray on their plants as repellents. Fertilizers are used in the land to help the

plants grow and prosper. These things need to be reduced to stop water pollution in the

Bay.

 

Pesticides and fertilizers are harmful to the land and water. They drain into the rivers and

pollute it. Excess nutrients overflow from the land to the river. The high levels of nitrogen

deplete the levels of oxygen in the water and algae grow, blocking anymore oxygen from

entering it. The plants in the water need oxygen and will die without it. Fish need the plants

to eat and will die.

 

Even though the equipment is harmful to the land and water, the farmers can't quit using

them. They need it to survive in their own economy. How will they make a living if they can't

 protect their crops and livestock? They continue using them. We wouldn't have crops and

farms couldn't thrive.

 

Buffers are one thing that can assist in reducing the pollution. They go along the rivers

beside farms to prevent nutrients and sprays from entering the river. They are harmless to

 the environment.

 

 

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    From:   JACT - homeowner - EHHS                                                                     Ask

                                                                                                                        3/27/2012

       What can be used as a buffer and how would this affect the environment?

    From:   The Quick-Build Land Developers - developer - MdS                             Ask

                                                                                                                        3/29/2012

       Is there something else instead that we can use in place of expensive fences?

    From:   Ol' McDonald Cleans His Farm - farmer - MdS                                     Ask

                                                                                                                        4/2/2012

       Will the buffers directly help block excess nutrients? Or is there a possibility they

       could contribute to the pollution?

    From:   The Local Goverment Wants to Make a Difference - local_gov -          Ask

                                                                                                                        3/31/2012

       What are some other ways to reduce pollution from farms other then planting

       buffers?

    From:   K&T Group - recreation - MslmnHS                                                         Ask

                                                                                                                        4/3/2012

       Some of this information is new to me. Very interesting and good points. (:

    From:   YnoK - Other - EHHS                                                                              Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

        Can you be a little more clear on what you would use as a buffer?

    From:   Hicks - farmer - EHHS                                                                            Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

       my question for the day to you is. in your story you never said how the fertlizer helped

        ther plants and helped the crops grow and things, so it wil lbe nice if you let us know

       how the fertilzer helps the process of plant growth. thanks.

    From:   octtoes - Waterman - EHHS                                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

       What other resources could you use other than buffers?

    From:   Helmet Stealers - farmer - EHHS                                                           Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

       You talked about buffers in the last paragraph. What effects could having buffers

       along your rivers have on your farm?

    From:   clueless people - homeowner - EHHS                                                       Ask

                                                                                                                        4/16/2012

       I read your POV and learned some new stuff. I do have a question though. What

       exactly is a buffer and how much would it cost to put them in? Is there anything else

       we could use, besides a buffer, to prevent chemicals from getting into the Bay??

 

 

 

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wvrebels                                                                                                            East Hardy HS

                                                                                                                               3/26/2012

     We important to the enviroment because we help control what goes into the water POV:

system. By putting cover crops, we also control the run off from feralizers and animal

wastes.

     The bay does not really affect us in our area except all the run off that go there.We

try to prevent all the Pesticides and other chemicals from water supply by using the

sediment ponds and other things at the edges of the water.

     If you had a a sediment pond you could put fish in it. It might cost a lot of money but it

 would be worth it in the end. We're going to have water if the people up stream would

follow regulations.

     We would prefer sediment ponds because there easier to put in, look better,they are

faster acting, and you could put fish in it. Also you could put cover crops in to because you

could benefit from them a lot for your animals to eat or to sell. They both cost little to put

 in and last for a good while.

 

 

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    From:   Fisherwomen - Waterman - EHHS                                                           Ask

                                                                                                                        3/27/2012

       The main thing we got from your POV is about sediment ponds. A sedimont pond is not

       going to solve all of the bays problems. How about considering using safer pesticides

       and chemicals?

        Response        wvrebels - farmer - EHHS

                             To:  Fisherwomen - Waterman - EHHS

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

              Sediment ponds are a good solution for catching pollution and you could have fish

              to clean the pond. Safer pesticides would be another good solution but thats not

              going to solve all the problems either. 

 

    From:   Dudley Squatters - homeowner - MslmnHS                                             Ask

                                                                                                                        3/28/2012

       What exactly is the purpose of cover crops and how will they effect/control run-off

       erosion?

        Response        wvrebels - farmer - EHHS

                             To:  Dudley Squatters - homeowner - MslmnHS

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

              Cover crops root down in the soil and hold the soil from eroding from the river

              banks.Won't help much with run off though.

 

    From:   Ol' McDonald Cleans His Farm - farmer - MdS                                     Ask

                                                                                                                        4/2/2012

       You said the pollution does not affect you in your area, but do you affect the

       pollution?  What else could you do besides sediment ponds that will be inexpensive and

       help lessen your contribution to the bay's pollution?

        Response        wvrebels - farmer - EHHS

                             To:  Ol' McDonald Cleans His Farm - farmer - MdS

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

               Not Pollution does not effect our area much. We could user safer fertalizers

              and small things here and there.

    From:   JJPA - CBP_Fed - EHHS                                                                         Ask

                                                                                                                        4/16/2012

       You mention sediment ponds as a good solution for the bays problems, what other

       solution are there as a farmer?

 

 

 

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Helmet Stealers                                                                                                East Hardy HS

                                                                                                                               3/26/2012

Farmers play a major role in the ecosystem of the Chesapeake Bay Watershed. Though ourPOV:

 influences can harm our surroundings, the problems and solutions of the Chesapeake

Watershed affect us more.

 

Agriculture is simply too important to our area to break down with restrictions and

limitations. Covering one-fourth of the Chesapeake watershed, we have over 87,000

working farms and more than 6.5 million acres of farmland among us. With over fifty

different crops and products (including corn, wheat, soybeans, and countless other fruits

and vegetables), we are essential to the economy and lifestyles of our area.

 

To protect and nurture our crops, we use pesticides and fertilizers to increase our profit

for less cost. In theory, this method has many benefits with little to no consequences. But,

when a heavy rain comes and washes the pesticides and the fertilizers away, they have to

go somewhere. Unfortunately for the Chesapeake Bay, it ends up right in its streams and

rivers, affecting the entire ecosystem.

 

Now, even though we can harm the environment, we do so as a non-point source. Unlike

factories, we do not deliberately drain our waste into the nearest stream or river. Ninety

percent of the phosphorus that enters the river from our farm comes from two or three

rain showers a year. Why do so many people want to change our system when we aren't the

 main problem?

 

We will admit that some of the suggested best management practices, or BMPs, would

reduce pollution from our farms, and if we could choose one or two to do it would be

manageable. For example we could plant a few cover crops in the fall to absorb the excess

 nutrients and form a tree and grass buffer along the river next to our farm.

 

But, if we are mandated to do everything that they suggest, just the cost of setting it up

alone could run us out of business. That's without mentioning all the money we would lose

on production decreases. The number in remaining active farms would be cut in half.

 

So, plain and simple, unless someone invents a hybrid crop that doesn't need fertilizer or

insect protection, farmers will always need them. The solutions that have been proposed

just aren't cost effective enough for us to use them all together. We may be able to do

one or possibly two, but that would be a very strong maybe. There's no way for us to run a

 business and cut out all the pollution from out fields.

 

 

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Red Hot Ninjas                                                                                                East Hardy HS

                                                                                                                               3/26/2012

As farmers, we are important for grains and dairy products that are present in your every POV:

day foods. The population as a whole wouldn't be able to survive without farmers being

there to grow crops and supply the people. Famers throughout the nation live to grow and

produce crops to sell to grocery stores or directly to the people. Therefore, water sheds

affect farmers and their businesses by complicating irrigation systems if polluted.

 

We farmers use water to nourish our crops and water cattle, sheep, chickens, pigs, and

goats. Say the water that we use to water our animals was polluted. Wouldn't that possible

 infect them with a disease or maybe result in death? It is, in fact, a possibility. And, if

there's no clean purified water to use, then we won't be able to provide our animals with

water which would result in no eggs, milk, bacon, ham, etc. If we didn't have clean water to

 nourish our crops we wouldn't have grains, corn, vegetables, etc.

 

If we found a way to purify the water in the bay, we would be able to give our crops and

animals water to survive and grow. On the other hand, if the water is completely clean,

there may be water usage restrictions. Even though water is needed to grow crops,

fertilizer is also used. Sometimes fertilizer tends to run off into the nearby streams and

pollute the water all over again, restricting our use from the water. So then, we'd have to

spend money to find an alternative water source or an alternative way to get water from

the sheds without polluting them.

 

The farmers have come to a conclusion and think it is best if the community teams up to

clean up the water. Kids in the community who go to our school that also need community

service, could take a day during the weekend and help clean up the polluted waters. They

could pick up trash and make sure filthy substances aren't running off into the water

sheds. Every so often afterwards, we could have a team check-up on the river just to keep

 it clean and sanitary.

 

 

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    From:   Green thumbs - farmer - MdS                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                        3/27/2012

       Although it is very likely that animals watered with polluted water could lead to disease

        and contamination, the water used for the animals and the crops is not from the bay

       and therefore this is not a concern.

       Also, while school children helping to improve the bay is always a good thing, this is too

       big of a responsibility to be left to them alone.

    From:   Dudley Squatters - homeowner - MslmnHS                                             Ask

                                                                                                                        3/28/2012

       I agree with "Green thumbs". This is far too large of a job for children to take on

       alone. They need support and laborers of much greater age and wisdom.

    From:   Wilderness Tours - recreation - MslmnHS                                              Ask

                                                                                                                        3/29/2012

       yea it would be hard to get the grain an the dairy with all of the polution out in the

       rivers an the bay cause thats where the water sourse comes from

 

 

 

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Green thumbs                                                                                                   Mount de Sales

                                                                                                                               3/26/2012

REVISED.      Farmers play an important role in the bay, and are often seen as a problem. Fertilizers and animal wastes pose a huge difficulty to the livelihood of the bay. Both non point sources are easily traced back to our farms. As farmers we are aware that we do pollute the bay and the areas around us. But what are we to do? Our job holds us responsible for providing food for people all over the world. If we stop using fertilizer on our crops or raising massive amounts of live stock, not only will there will not be enough food to feed our giant nation, our farms and small businesses will fail, leaving families who have been farming for generations in debt and people hungry. If the environment continues to deteriorate the way it is now, there is a definite possibility that the government will try to shut the farming business down. If this happens the world will have lost its primary food source and people all over the world will face the consequences of potential starvation. Also, if they shut the farming business down then millions of people will loose their jobs, including ourselves, therefore hurting not only individual families in the world but the economy as well.

We can however help to prevent these nutrients from reaching the water, money permitting. Those on older farms could construct blockers or such to help hold in the waste and fertilizer and keep it from the water. New farms should be built with the bay in mind, either away from close water ways, or with a watchful eye towards the areas where fertilizers are distributed and where animals are kept.

As far as Government involvement, it should be minimal and considerate to the financial state of the farms. Government would also be helpful not only financially but to get the spread the word and to regulate all farms; therefore forcing an improvement in farms all over the world. It is quite impossible to completely rid of our practice of agriculture, but we can improve our methods to try to keep our earth healthy.

 

 

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    From:   SpunkySafetyOrangeSheep - developer - MdS                                        Ask

                                                                                                                        3/27/2012

       We agree that there is no possible way for us to completely stop our pollution that are

        making there way to our water ways. However, we also would need some kind of

       financial support to help stop the polltion. We think it would benefit us and the

       enviorment in the long run to pay the extra money to help save the bay.

        Response        Green thumbs - farmer - MdS

                             To:  SpunkySafetyOrangeSheep - developer - MdS

                                                                                                                        3/28/2012

              Thank you for your comment, we will take that into account. We do agree that we

               will need some sort of financial support in order to create these buffers and to

              make our ideas become a reality. Possibly through fundraising or government

              funding depending on if we decide that it would be best if we did involve the

              government after all.

 

    From:   The Fishes Advocate - Waterman - MdS                                                Ask

                                                                                                                        3/27/2012

       I think it's nice that you took responsibility and acknowledge that farmers are a main

       part of the problem. I also like how you thought of solutions that could work very well.

    From:   The Mean Green Governing Machine - local_gov - MdS                         Ask

                                                                                                                        3/27/2012

       After reading your plans for preventing nutrients and waste from running off into the

       waterways by placing barriers, we were curious how you are going to stop the

       nutrients from infiltrating the soil and underground waterways?

        Response        Green thumbs - farmer - MdS

                             To:  The Mean Green Governing Machine - local_gov - MdS

                                                                                                                        3/28/2012

              Cover crops could be planted to help soak up the nutrients, as well as trees

 

    From:   Jay A. Squared - homeowner - MdS                                                      Ask

                                                                                                                        3/27/2012

       We're glad you recognize that the fertilizers you use are harming the bay and are

       accepting responisibilty for doing so. However, we disagree with your opinion regarding

       Government Involvement. If the government does not get involved, the chances of

       changes actually occurring are slim. There needs to be some restrictions and

       regulations to promote going green. We do believe, however, that you should recieve

       incentives and rewards for doing so.

        Response        Green thumbs - farmer - MdS

                             To:  Jay A. Squared - homeowner - MdS

                                                                                                                        3/28/2012

              We do not oppose government regulations, we are for them. Our comment is that

              the government needs to take into consederation who is under what regulations. A

               larger farm, who is more likely to be able to afford to keep up with regulations,

              adds a larger amount of pollution and therefore should have greater

              responsibility. A smaller farm, however, should not carry the same heavy burden.

              We are not saying that small farms should be exempt from all regulations, rather

               that they should be held accountable to their own grouping of government

              regulations. 

    From:   Nessie the lock ness monster - CB_Ecosystem - MdS                            Ask

                                                                                                                        3/29/2012

       We agree with your opinion but we think there should be more government invovlement

       in farms regardless of size. All farms should be held to the same standards and

       regulations that keep the bays health in mind.

        Response        Green thumbs - farmer - MdS

                             To:  Nessie the lock ness monster - CB_Ecosystem - MdS

                                                                                                                        4/2/2012

              After all of the comments we recieved we decided that it would be best if we did

               involve the government.

 

 

 

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Hicks                                                                                                                 East Hardy HS

                                                                                                                               3/26/2012

We are important because we supply food to consumers all over the chesapeake area. POV:

Fertilizers that we use to help our crops grow cause algae to grow in small streams and

rivers. Too much algae can take oxygen out of the water. We are affected by regulations

passed by the EPA on fertilizers on how much we can use per year. What we can use is also

 regulated by new laws passed by the EPA. This is affecting our production of produce due

to the regulations on fertilizers. Farmers could possibly plant tree's or plants around the

edge of fields which they are having problem's with erosion

 

 

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    From:   Green thumbs - farmer - MdS                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                        3/27/2012

       Do you agree with the EPA's regulations, or you do you disagree?

        Response        Hicks - farmer - EHHS

                             To:  Green thumbs - farmer - MdS

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

              We agree and disagree with EPA's regulations. We agree because we understand

              the need for some regualtions since they help keep the creeks clean. We disagree

              because other regulations affect our crops and output of produce to consumers.

    From:   JJPA - CBP_Fed - EHHS                                                                         Ask

                                                                                                                        4/16/2012

       What exactly do you suggest using to help prevent pollution in other areas other than

       farming?  You mentioned the regulations that affect farmers that help prevent

       pollution do you have any suggestions for any other group such as homeowners, CBF,

       ect.?

 

 

 

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Sheep Farmers II

East Hardy HS

3/27/2012

Farmers depend on the water ways for the outcome of their crops and the condidtion of  

their livestock. Farmers also can clean the water by planting trees or keeping livestock out

of rivers.

 

The Chespeake Bay problems affect me by if the water is contaimated it could give my

livestock disease. Also if I use the water out of the streams to water my crops and the

water has been infected with various germs it could possibly damage my crops.

 

Take the precaution to keep the steam clean because now is voluntary, however, by

dismissing this problem federal officials may take the incintive and make regulations. Which

 would cause serious problems in the future for tradition farmers.

 

As a farmer the water will run into my land and I will be in and using it a lot. If the water

has disease I could contract a water bourne illness, that would probably affect the rest of

 my life. If I have family members or workers that come in contact with the stream, I

would be responsible for their well being.

 

I would prefer that farmers would keep the water clean, even if it is harder. In the long

run and for the rest of the community it would be beneficary to take the extra precautions

 to make the water a safer place to be. I also would like for the other farmers in this area

be aware of how their actions affect more than just them.

 

 

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Ol' McDonald Cleans His Farm                                                                   Mount de Sales

                                                                                                                       3/29/2012

REVISED:

As a farmer, I choose to help provide clean water, clean air, and wildlife habitat.  If I want  to make a living on the land, I need to implement good conservation practices and go beyond what is legally required of me to ensure safe and healthy living environments and products.  Restoration efforts are a statewide occurrence and we as farmers should volunteer to help in these efforts to make laws and clean up our bay, although it is difficult  to make environmental improvements that reduce water pollution while producing food, fuel, and fiber for an ever-growing population.  Farmers, as well as non-farmers, need to be aware of the excessive pollution in our waterways to be able to volunteer to help.  Such procedures as making farmers keep their cows out of waterways and extend their sewage basins will not be as effective as nutrient management, conservation tillage, cover crops and conservation of soil and water.  Other options such as using fertilizers wisely, trying pesticide alternatives, composting, and conserving water can attribute to controlling soil erosion and rainwater runoff.  Such things do not have to be costly. 

By limiting pesticides and fertilizers, we can limit the excessive nutrients and runoff that enter the bay.  Unfortunately this will also have a negative affect on farmers.  Without proper protection for our crops, neither crops nor farms will thrive.  However, by slightly reducing the amount of fertilizer and pesticides we use without putting our crops in danger, and setting up cover crops and sediment ponds, we can still reduce the amount of excess nutrients and pollution.

As far as point source polluters, they can make their contribution to the bay by assisting funding the cleanup of non-point pollution, as they were and may still be huge factors in the  pollution of our bay.  Unfortunately, farms could lose a lot of profit through bay cleanup. 

We would need to find new ways to conserve our water and use animal wastes, instead of allowing for runoff.  There would need to be greater control over our animals and new, safer techniques for fertilizing our soil.  Although possibly expensive, unhealthy bay water hurts farms as much as we pollute it; therefore we must help save the bay.

 

 

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G&M Farming                                                                                                Musselman HS

                                                                                                                       3/30/2012

G&M Farming Co.

 

  Our point of view is coming from the perspective of a cattle farmer. Most cattle farmers

do many different things to try to stop river pollution into the watershed. They will have

manure pits to hold the cattle waste which you can use to fertilize their own fields. They

will put fences up to keep the cattle out of the water so they do not use the bathroom in

the water. They can plant trees along the bank to stop the bank from eroding. The trees

also keep the water cooler which is good for the native fish population including trout and

bass.  The will put up silt fences around the stables or pens to keep the animal waste from

leaving the pens.

  It can be expensive to do things that will help prevent water pollution. The cost can be

redeemed after you take the time to think on the other cost you will save on in the long run.

  Farmers alone can save by more closely watching their cattle more closely when they are

around rivers. Cattle can drown or injure them selves in the water which will cause even

more pollution from a dead animal in the water. The cattle could drink the polluted water

and get sick or die. The cost of new cattle can outweigh the cost of almost everything done

 to try and keep the water clean. In the long run it is worth every penny that you use to

help the rivers and streams because that helps preserve them for future generations. You

should show others to keep the water ways clean.

 

 

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Michaels' Farms                                                                                           Musselman HS

                                                                                                                         4/2/2012

As a farmer, my position is that the only way to come to a consensus is to find a way to POV:

reduce the burden and expense that is placed on farmers. For example, buffers that are

placed on edges of property do decrease the amount of nutrient runoff that enters the

stream, but the down side is that they reduce the amount of land that is able to be farmed.

 I understand the role that the farmers play in the problems forming in the Chesapeake

Bay; excess nutrient runoff from fertilizers and manure control. These are serious issues;

the problem is the cost to fix these problems. One solution would be to fence in livestock in

 order to keep them out of the streams.  This will help to reduce some of the excess

nutrients in the streams by not allowing the cows to deposit manure into the water. Also, it

will reduce the erosion on stream banks by not allowing the livestock to walk in and out of

the streams. Another solution would be to take the manure created by the livestock and

age it in manure pits, then use it for fertilizer or even sell it to make a profit. This will

create a way to reduce the amount of extra nutrients that enter the streams, and create a

 cost savings for the farmers. More solutions like these will help to clean up the streams

and help to improve the Chesapeake Bay system.

 

 

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    From:   Hicks - farmer - EHHS                                                                            Ask

                                                                                                                        4/16/2012

       So, since you are from Mussleman and really seem to care about the excess nutrient

       run off from animal manure and the fencing needed to keep this from happening;

       What is your stance on the apple farming that seems to be going on up there? Are

       there any real problems with run off from the apples, or do they already have fences

       around their trees to keep the apples from rolling all over the place?

 

 

 

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pharmers

Musselman HS                                                                         4/3/2012

As farmers our responsibility to the environment's well being is of the utmost importance.

We farm the land to provide food for our community, but in the same process we use POV:

harmful pesticides and fertilizers that harm the water shed. The majority of the harmful

watershed going into the Chesapeake Bay has been put on the shoulders of the farmers.

We are scolded for creating dangerous water shed, but yet at the same time we are

expected to provide quality crops to our community.

Many people insist that this is a problem that the farmers need to fix themselves. Those

people are mistaken because without the financial assistance and support of the community

 we cannot have an appropriate solution. In order to keep the watershed clean we would

have to build a long fence that stretches over our property and blocks our cattle from the

creeks. This fence takes a lot of time and money to build. If the community finds it an

unnecessary cause and doesn't want to help, why should we find it necessary to help. We

need to find a solution that benefits everyone and provides the right amount of help to

contribute to the fence.

The second thing accused of the problem is our fertilizer. We find it more in more difficult

 to find places to put the fertilizer. When you run out of places you burry it, and then it

finds its way to the water shed. Now if someone offers to find a place to put the extra

fertilizer we will be more than willing to cooperate. I think it would be best for every to

stop pointing fingers and actually try to find a solution.

We would like to thank you for your time. We hope that both you and the community find it

 easy to look at the situation from our point of view. Thanks

 

 

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Farmers of America

Musselman HS                                                                         4/3/2012

As farmers of Berkeley County, environmentalists want us farmers to have extra

responsibilities. Environmentalists want farmers to build fences to keep our cattle out of POV:

streams and other public water sources. Unfortunately, the fences that environmentalists

want us to build are too costly for our budget and so we would need financial assistance.

 

The fence raises some other kind of concerns because if we build a fence near water and

a cow wants water, it will go through a fence. To reduce water pollution, it would be smart

to build a dam to prevent pesticides and fertilizers from entering public waters. If we

were to put damns in water, and build natural ponds as a permanent water source, we ask

for financial assistance as it will require a lot of money, time, and man power.

 

Even though it will take a lot of time to maintain a clean watershed, we are wlling to do

whatever it takes with your assistance. We will show America that we do care about our

environment and are willing to do whatever it takes no matter the cause. Thank fyou for

your time and thank you for listening.

 

 

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    From:   JACT - homeowner - EHHS                                                                     Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

       How do you plan to go about getting help for your financial expenses?

    From:   CG & GC - homeowner - EHHS                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

       How are you going to clean out the pollution in the water, if the cattle do get out?

    From:   The Bubble Troopers - CBP_Fed - EHHS                                                Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

       We definitely agree with you, but how do we get environmentalists to understand that

       we need assistance?

 

 

 

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Farmers of WV

Musselman HS                                                                         4/4/2012

Farmers have always been needed because of the valuable goods they provide to people all

over the world. Farmers are important in the environmental sense because their cattle POV:

loosen sediment when they walk along streams and rivers. Runoff from fertilizers cause

excess plant growth in water bodies which causes dead zones.

In order to help better the environment, farmers can soncstruct fences near bodies of

water to prevent cows from walking near them where they erode the soil and release

waste into the water. Farmers can also rotate the fields in which they keep their cattle in,

to prevent manure buildup or construct manure pits.

 

 

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    From:   The Bubble Troopers - CBP_Fed - EHHS                                                Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

       Although the fences are a good idea, there are some farmers who can't afford them.

 

 

 

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the Johnsons

Musselman HS                                                                         4/4/2012

Farmers use pesticides and fertilizers which are very harmful to the chesapeake bay.

When it rains and the water runs off from the ground into the rivers and ponds a lot of POV:

the fertilizers run with the water and get into the rivers and stuff. Also, when farmers

own cattle and animals the animals like to stand in the water. Since the farmers don't wash

 the cattle or animals then they are very dirty and muddy so the water that they stand in

and get muddy and dirty harms the fish and animals in the chesapeake bay.

 

 

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    From:   alligator pancakes - Waterman - EHHS                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

       Although you have good points, you never stated what farmers should do to help the

       chesapeake bay area.  So what do you actually plan on doing about this problem? 

    From:   CG & GC - homeowner - EHHS                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

       How can you provent the fertilizers from getting into the rivers?

    From:   Hicks - farmer - EHHS                                                                            Ask

                                                                                                                        4/16/2012

       Animals being in the water that are muddy does not affect the water. Water runs over

        mud all of the time. Your point of the animals being in the water does become valid

       when the animals begin to dispose of their waste while in the water.

 

 

 

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TGOD

Musselman HS                                                                         4/5/2012

BUTLER'S ORCHARD

POV:

Butlers Orchard/ Farm in Germantown, Maryland provide fruit and vegetables to local

neighbors. They grow more than 25 types of fruit and vegetable, including strawberries,

apples, oranges, broccoli, squash etc. The orchard provides all these to most of the people

in the community, but like most orchards they spray their crops with pesticides.

Most orchards use Methyl Iodide. Methyl Iodide is an extremely poisonous pesticide. This

pesticide causes cancer, and easily drifts off farms and orchards into rural communities

causing some kids sickness. This pesticide is very important to us because it's the main

substance used for strawberries.  

Many H.O.As would like for us to use a different pesticide. Our pesticide seeps into the soil

 than soaks up through the roots, once the product starts to grow and is contaminated.

When it rains it drifts to wells locally. Causing the water to be undrinkable and unusable.

 

 

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    From:   alligator pancakes - Waterman - EHHS                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

       What other pesticides could you use that would be safer than the ones that you are

       using now?  Are there any other safer methods of growing food?

 

 

 

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Tabs

Musselman HS                                                                         4/5/2012

As farmers of Berkeley County, we hear a lot of complaints about poluting our economy.

People don't realize that we're the reason they have food on thier plates every night.POV:

 

Yes, we understand that the manuerer from our cows go into our streams and pollute the

water. But everyone else doesn't understand that it's a big expense to put up a fence, not

to mention the time and hard work it requires to put it up. It would be nice if we could have

 some help from the people that are complaining.

 

Spreading fertilizer is another complaint that we hear. We understand this too, but

spreading fertilizer helps the crops to grow so people can have food to eat.

 

As farmers of Berkeley County we will try to change some things to help out our

community and the world. 

 

 

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    From:   Sheep Farmers II - farmer - EHHS                                                        Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

        We can relate to the manure problem as well.  But we have a suggestion for you, you

       say you want to change things how about building a manure shed/composter. By

       building this shed it will prevent the manure from polluting your streams.

    From:   The Bubble Troopers - CBP_Fed - EHHS                                                Ask

                                                                                                                        4/11/2012

       We agree that fences are expensive and require a lot of time and hard work, and that

       the complaining people should have a hand in it, but how are we going to get them

       involved?

 

 

 

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