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Stream Cleaner Environmental Forum 2008

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  From:   Mt de Sales                                                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/14/2008

     How else does the government help the Chesapeake Bay?

  From:   LGvmnt 8 - local_gov - JWHS(F)                                                             Statement

                                                                                                                         4/14/2008

            i guest my statement is the best because of nobody responding to it.

 

 

 

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busy bodies                                                                                            Jefferson H.S.-Gipson

                                                                                                                                  4/3/2008

We are important because we help the city and the people of the city.It doesn't really

effect us because we are far away from it.It can get personal because the people can get

 up in our face if they are not happy with what we are doing with the city.We could lose

our job if the people of the city get mad. We could talk to the federal government for the

people, because the federal government could help us out with the city's problems.We

would approach the bays problem by purafying the water.

 

 

 

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  From:   Chicken Kickers'' 101 - farmer - MHS                                        Ask

                                                                                             4/8/2008

     Why are not affected by the water polution?  How do u purafy water?

     Even though you live a distance from the bay you still affect the runnoff and

     pollution that washes down there.

  From:   fishies - CB_Ecosystem - MHS                                                     Ask

                                                                                             4/8/2008

     how do you help the city and the people of the city?

 

  From:   Fish's Wishes - CB_Ecosystem - KHS(K)                                      Ask

                                                                                             4/9/2008

     How can you say it doesnt affect you, it affects everybody. Marine life is a very

     important part of peoples everyday actions. With all the pollution that goes into the

     stream it affects pleasure, dining, and all other organisms that have to do with the

     waterways.

       With the pleasure aspect it affects things like fishing and swimming. With the

     pollution that goes into the water the fish die and the water is unsafe to swim in.

       I hope you don't like fish because with the pollution they will be too unsafe and too

     few to eat. Also, not only people eat fish but also larger organisms within the bay eat

      fish too, and the fish eat things that would otherwise grow in population and die off.

      this will continue so on and so forth creating a domino effect. Eventually this will

     lead to basically no life within the bay.

       To think that the pollution problem will not affect you is simply foolish. 

  From:   SAVE THE BAY BUMPER STICKERS - recreation - KHS(K)        Ask

                                                                                           4/10/2008

     You say you help by purifing the water, that is not all you can do.  Why don't you

     help by speaking to the states and federal government to use tax money to resolve

     these issues?

  From:   The Red Neck Yacht Club - recreation - JWHS(F)                                   Statement

                                                                                                                             4/11/2008

     You say that you do not affect the Bay because of your distance from the Bay. If you

     truley beleive this, you are seriously mistaken. If, in any form, your town or city uses water

     or gets rain, then you ae effecting the bay. Water is a funny element, it travels. I want to

     know where you think that you sewer water and street drainage systems lead to. Your

     "jobs" are no where near as important as protecting our environment, and it is people like

     you that cause one of the largest road blocks to passing environment clean-up acts. When

     you refuse to pass regulations on the clean up of your area, the whole system downstream

     of you suffurs. Pollutants such as oil, gasoline, and nitrate polution can and will travel

     through the soil and infiltrate the water systems in your area. Since water does flow,

     (that's an amazing thought) your polution travels to the bay and helps raise the toxcisity of

     the water.

  From:   Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS                                                            Statement

                                                                                                                                4/11/2008

     I would have expected more information.

  From:   fishies - CB_Ecosystem - MHS                                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                                4/11/2008

     How do you PURIFY water!?  Chicken Kickers are exactly right!  You're going to affect the

     water!!! All streams creeks and rivers.  you're basically saying that where you live you

     don't even have a creek!  And if your on this website you can obviously be close to this

            region!

  From:   Mt de Sales                                                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/14/2008

     You said that it does not personally affect you because you are far away from the

     problem...but wouldn't it affect you because of the water you drink, your recreaton

     activities, and food such as crabs and fish?

  From:   D.C.I.R. - CB_Ecosystem - JWHS(F)                                                      Ask

                                                                                                                         4/14/2008

     What the bloody heck??  You're effect too, are you not?  The people of the city need

     the same things that everyone else in the ecosystem.  If one thing is gone, you can't just

      'ignore' it.  Unless you have a time machine fueled by magical ponies that can go back

     and revive that lost part of the chain, WE'RE ALL IN TROUBLE!!  I did like what you had

     to say and think (for the most part) is a valid statement on the Local goverment section.

  From:   The Red Neck Yacht Club - recreation - JWHS(F)                                Statement

                                                                                                                         4/15/2008

     It's me again. I just want to know why you are not replying to any of us. All of the

     groups that have responded to your forum seem to have a common theme in there

     questions. I think all of us (this is directed towards those that are asking the busy bodies

      questions) agree that you do effect the bay, and we would like to know what you are

     going to do about it, now that it has been brought to your attention that you are blind to

     your own mistakes.

  From:   The Pearls - local_gov - MdSA                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/15/2008

     I dont understand how you can say tha it doesnt affect you personally...because dont

     you use resources from the bay such as water and crabs and fish...so even though you

     may not be right next to the problem, wouldnt it affect you personally other than

     affecting your job?

     And even though you live far from the problem, you are still a contributor to the

     problem whether or not you mean to be because almost everything we do affects the

     bay in some way or another...so what can you do from a distance to lessen your affects

     on the bay?

     And what kind of things would you talk to the federal government about? What kind of

     problems would you adress to the federal governemt that would help all people including

     the farmers, land owners, business owners, etc. ?

     How would you purify the water? What methods would you use that would be beneficial

     to everyone and everything? Have you taken into consideration what it would cost to

     purify the water and how much tax money would go to purifying the water?  Also, did

     you think of the long term affects of just purifying it? Because even though it might be

     purified, it can easily be re-contaminated because of runoff and other things...

  From:   Because we said so. - local_gov - JWHS(T)                                           Statement

                                                                                                                         4/15/2008

     how do you help the city and the people of the city? how do you purify the water? maybe

      people get "up in your face" because you dont have any possible solutions or

     compromises for the bay clean up. also, you are just as affected as anyone, and you

     affect the bay just like everyone else.

  From:   mo'field fishies - farmer - MHS                                                             Ask

                                                                                                                         4/15/2008

     How are you not affected? You may live far away but you still affect the water shed.

 

 

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The Bay Bailers                                                                                      Jefferson H.S.-Gipson

                                                                                                                                  4/3/2008

We are important because we make up one the many main controls in the

economy of the Bay area. It affects us because it will cut from our main water system and

this  is an everyday need, requirement, or so have you. The possible solutions will affect me

in a positive way, I say this because this will help us gain control of our community and the

health factors that surround it. Better cleaning systems, more people willing to work, and

for people to have a healthier outlook on where they are living. We might have to put a little

money into the solution so we can clean better. No, cleaning the bay won't harm anyone, at

the most it will help everyone if everyone participates in the cause.

 

 

 

 

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  From:   Chicken Kickers'' 101 - farmer - MHS                                                      Ask

                                                                                                                           4/11/2008

     What will happen id the bay doesn't get cleaned?

  From:   Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS                                                            Ask

                                                                                                                              4/11/2008

     what are the possable solutions, just how much mony are you going to "put into it," and more

      importently, how long will they take?

  From:   Because we said so. - local_gov - JWHS(T)                                           Statement

                                                                                                                         4/15/2008

     you say we can put a little money into the cleaning solutions but the truth is cleaning

     systems can be extremely expensive. also, do you have any other possible solutions or

            compromises with farmers, developers, etc.?

  From:   The Pearls - local_gov - MdSA                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/16/2008

     You said that the solutions will affect you in a positive way...what kind of solutions do you

      mean excatly? An where would you get the money for the better cleaning systems and

     to pay the extra people needed to work?

  From:   The Pearls - local_gov - MdSA                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/16/2008

     What are more specific solutions you can do?

     Are you giving money to bay Programs or farmers to help reduce pollution in the Bay?

  From:   SAVinators - CBP_Fed - MdSA                                                               Ask

                                                                                                                         4/16/2008

     do you have any examples of what you will do to help clean the bay?

  From:   The Forester Boys - Other - KHS(K)                                                      Ask

                                                                                                                         4/16/2008

     I was wondering how and in what ways are you going to make or have the people help out

      with the cleaning of the bay and how much this is going to cost?

 

 

 

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LG                                                                                                    James Wood H.S.-Fordyce

                                                                                                                                 4/8/2008

As you all know, our very own Watershed is in grave danger: so what can we, as your local

government, do about this problem? That actually depends on a few things…

•           Our economy today is not what it used to be: with technology growing and advancing

faster than we ever thought possible, the need for natural resources is increasing. FAST.

The quantity of those resources is also dwindling, at an alarming rate. What can we do to

slow this process, as it is impossible to stop it?

•           Do we need more money from tax payers?

•           Can we actually GET more money from taxpayers?

•           Do we need more houses, and can the Chesapeake Bay handle any more development by

humans?

 

There are many more topics such as this one that need to be taken into account, but these

are the best starters. So: do we really have the money to repair and ‘upkeep’ this natural

resource? I believe we can spare it. We need to spare it. This is a natural object we’re

talking about: it cannot be artificially recreated. We need to save it! No option around it.

 

Now: to address these problems, one at a time.

•           The need for natural resources will never be met, with no need for more later. We can’t

stop it, but I think we can slow it. If we ask our residents to increase their recycling, and

decrease on their water intake, we can seriously benefit our own Bay’s future. How? We

can always give a little tax cut to our citizens for recycling 40% or more of their waste.

•           Do we need more money? No, not if this plan to help the economy is going to work. If you

 read the last bullet, you’d understand the reason for this. And I promise you: it’ll pay off,

in the end. If we cut their taxes a little, even simply on things like food or clothing (even

get creative and cut some off video games)  will encourage many people to move here, thus

replacing our tax breaks with more people. If you get a lot of people to pay a little, you can

 have more than asking one to pay a lot.

•           Can we get money from our taxpayers? Yes, absolutely, but it may make one very

unhappy community.

•           If we can ratify this proposal, than yes: The Chesapeake Bay is going to be more than

accommodating for new residents: healthier environment, healthier people. Healthier people,

 healthier kids. Healthier kids, happier parents.

 

 

 

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  From:   Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS                                                         Ask

                                                                                                                         4/17/2008

            how is more people going to help? arn't large group of people the cause of the problm?

 

 

 

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LG8                                                                                                  James Wood H.S.-Fordyce

                                                                                                                                 4/8/2008

  I’m important to the Chesapeake Bay because I pass laws to cleanup the bay.

It affects the local government because people blame the government for the pollution of

the bay. The solutions affect the local government because if the solutions don’t work the

government is at fault. The government always gets blamed for any thing that happens. The

 reason why the water is polluted is because s of businesses dumping chemicals in the

water.  To cleanup the bay plant trees and grass. That would help the bay. The   grass

would help the bay to cleanup by   helping erosion control.  The government gets blamed

for everything that goes wrong with bay. The bay affects the government by getting the

people are on their side or against them. If the bay is polluted the people are against them.

  The people expect the government to cleanup the bay.  The government can make laws

that make the home owner check their septic system at least once every three months.

They can also provide money to plant buffers. They can found organizations to cleanup the

 bay. If the government cleans up the bay the people will be on the government’s side. The

solution would have a demonstrable cost to the government because they have to come up

with the money to cleanup the bay. If the bay was cleaned up people wouldn’t complain to

the government. The government would have to raise taxes and take money out of other

funds. The people blame the government because their supposed to be making the laws. The

 buffers would help because the roots are in the soil holding the soil from getting in the

bay.  Ill passes laws that will make the watershed a cleaner place.  Ill will make laws that

make the factories not allowed to dumping their chemicals into the bay.

 

 

 

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  From:   Redneck Story - Waterman - JWHS(F)                                                   Ask

                                                                                                                         4/14/2008

     This guy is smarter than the average doorknob. Just kidding man.....Good Story Love it

            lol...... SMC

  From:   The Pearls - local_gov - MdSA                                                                Ask

                                                                                                                         4/16/2008

     The bay is not polluted ONLY because of the business' dumping chemicals into the

     water... chemicals and sediment can travel to the bay because of weather or other non

     point causes..so what solutions could you do to help the natural pollutions as well as the

     point source polllution?

  From:   The Chesapeake Strip Mall - Other - MRGS                                           Ask

                                                                                                                         4/23/2008

     You say that businesses pollute the Chesapeake Bay. However, you only provide a few

     solutions to stop business from polluting the bay. Yes, you do want to make laws to stop

     factories from polluting, but what about service industries?

 

 

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LGvmnt 8                                                                                         James Wood H.S.-Fordyce