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From: Mt de Sales Ask

4/14/2008

How else does the government help the Chesapeake Bay?

From: LGvmnt 8 - local_gov - JWHS(F) Statement

4/14/2008

i guest my statement is the best because of nobody responding to it.

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busy bodies Jefferson H.S.-Gipson

4/3/2008

We are important because we help the city and the people of the city.It doesn't really

effect us because we are far away from it.It can get personal because the people can get

up in our face if they are not happy with what we are doing with the city.We could lose

our job if the people of the city get mad. We could talk to the federal government for the

people, because the federal government could help us out with the city's problems.We

would approach the bays problem by purafying the water.

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From: Chicken Kickers'' 101 - farmer - MHS Ask

4/8/2008

Why are not affected by the water polution? How do u purafy water?

Even though you live a distance from the bay you still affect the runnoff and

pollution that washes down there.

From: fishies - CB_Ecosystem - MHS Ask

4/8/2008

how do you help the city and the people of the city?

From: Fish's Wishes - CB_Ecosystem - KHS(K) Ask

4/9/2008

How can you say it doesnt affect you, it affects everybody. Marine life is a very

important part of peoples everyday actions. With all the pollution that goes into the

stream it affects pleasure, dining, and all other organisms that have to do with the

waterways.

With the pleasure aspect it affects things like fishing and swimming. With the

pollution that goes into the water the fish die and the water is unsafe to swim in.

I hope you don't like fish because with the pollution they will be too unsafe and too

few to eat. Also, not only people eat fish but also larger organisms within the bay eat

fish too, and the fish eat things that would otherwise grow in population and die off.

this will continue so on and so forth creating a domino effect. Eventually this will

lead to basically no life within the bay.

To think that the pollution problem will not affect you is simply foolish.

From: SAVE THE BAY BUMPER STICKERS - recreation - KHS(K) Ask

4/10/2008

You say you help by purifing the water, that is not all you can do. Why don't you

help by speaking to the states and federal government to use tax money to resolve

these issues?

From: The Red Neck Yacht Club - recreation - JWHS(F) Statement

4/11/2008

You say that you do not affect the Bay because of your distance from the Bay. If you

truley beleive this, you are seriously mistaken. If, in any form, your town or city uses water

or gets rain, then you ae effecting the bay. Water is a funny element, it travels. I want to

know where you think that you sewer water and street drainage systems lead to. Your

"jobs" are no where near as important as protecting our environment, and it is people like

you that cause one of the largest road blocks to passing environment clean-up acts. When

you refuse to pass regulations on the clean up of your area, the whole system downstream

of you suffurs. Pollutants such as oil, gasoline, and nitrate polution can and will travel

through the soil and infiltrate the water systems in your area. Since water does flow,

(that's an amazing thought) your polution travels to the bay and helps raise the toxcisity of

the water.

From: Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS Statement

4/11/2008

I would have expected more information.

From: fishies - CB_Ecosystem - MHS Ask

4/11/2008

How do you PURIFY water!? Chicken Kickers are exactly right! You're going to affect the

water!!! All streams creeks and rivers. you're basically saying that where you live you

don't even have a creek! And if your on this website you can obviously be close to this

region!

From: Mt de Sales Ask

4/14/2008

You said that it does not personally affect you because you are far away from the

problem...but wouldn't it affect you because of the water you drink, your recreaton

activities, and food such as crabs and fish?

From: D.C.I.R. - CB_Ecosystem - JWHS(F) Ask

4/14/2008

What the bloody heck?? You're effect too, are you not? The people of the city need

the same things that everyone else in the ecosystem. If one thing is gone, you can't just

'ignore' it. Unless you have a time machine fueled by magical ponies that can go back

and revive that lost part of the chain, WE'RE ALL IN TROUBLE!! I did like what you had

to say and think (for the most part) is a valid statement on the Local goverment section.

From: The Red Neck Yacht Club - recreation - JWHS(F) Statement

4/15/2008

It's me again. I just want to know why you are not replying to any of us. All of the

groups that have responded to your forum seem to have a common theme in there

questions. I think all of us (this is directed towards those that are asking the busy bodies

questions) agree that you do effect the bay, and we would like to know what you are

going to do about it, now that it has been brought to your attention that you are blind to

your own mistakes.

From: The Pearls - local_gov - MdSA Ask

4/15/2008

I dont understand how you can say tha it doesnt affect you personally...because dont

you use resources from the bay such as water and crabs and fish...so even though you

may not be right next to the problem, wouldnt it affect you personally other than

affecting your job?

And even though you live far from the problem, you are still a contributor to the

problem whether or not you mean to be because almost everything we do affects the

bay in some way or another...so what can you do from a distance to lessen your affects

on the bay?

And what kind of things would you talk to the federal government about? What kind of

problems would you adress to the federal governemt that would help all people including

the farmers, land owners, business owners, etc. ?

How would you purify the water? What methods would you use that would be beneficial

to everyone and everything? Have you taken into consideration what it would cost to

purify the water and how much tax money would go to purifying the water? Also, did

you think of the long term affects of just purifying it? Because even though it might be

purified, it can easily be re-contaminated because of runoff and other things...

From: Because we said so. - local_gov - JWHS(T) Statement

4/15/2008

how do you help the city and the people of the city? how do you purify the water? maybe

people get "up in your face" because you dont have any possible solutions or

compromises for the bay clean up. also, you are just as affected as anyone, and you

affect the bay just like everyone else.

From: mo'field fishies - farmer - MHS Ask

4/15/2008

How are you not affected? You may live far away but you still affect the water shed.

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The Bay Bailers Jefferson H.S.-Gipson

4/3/2008

We are important because we make up one the many main controls in the

economy of the Bay area. It affects us because it will cut from our main water system and

this is an everyday need, requirement, or so have you. The possible solutions will affect me

in a positive way, I say this because this will help us gain control of our community and the

health factors that surround it. Better cleaning systems, more people willing to work, and

for people to have a healthier outlook on where they are living. We might have to put a little

money into the solution so we can clean better. No, cleaning the bay won't harm anyone, at

the most it will help everyone if everyone participates in the cause.

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From: Chicken Kickers'' 101 - farmer - MHS Ask

4/11/2008

What will happen id the bay doesn't get cleaned?

From: Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS Ask

4/11/2008

what are the possable solutions, just how much mony are you going to "put into it," and more

importently, how long will they take?

From: Because we said so. - local_gov - JWHS(T) Statement

4/15/2008

you say we can put a little money into the cleaning solutions but the truth is cleaning

systems can be extremely expensive. also, do you have any other possible solutions or

compromises with farmers, developers, etc.?

From: The Pearls - local_gov - MdSA Ask

4/16/2008

You said that the solutions will affect you in a positive way...what kind of solutions do you

mean excatly? An where would you get the money for the better cleaning systems and

to pay the extra people needed to work?

From: The Pearls - local_gov - MdSA Ask

4/16/2008

What are more specific solutions you can do?

Are you giving money to bay Programs or farmers to help reduce pollution in the Bay?

From: SAVinators - CBP_Fed - MdSA Ask

4/16/2008

do you have any examples of what you will do to help clean the bay?

From: The Forester Boys - Other - KHS(K) Ask

4/16/2008

I was wondering how and in what ways are you going to make or have the people help out

with the cleaning of the bay and how much this is going to cost?

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LG James Wood H.S.-Fordyce

4/8/2008

As you all know, our very own Watershed is in grave danger: so what can we, as your local

government, do about this problem? That actually depends on a few things…

• Our economy today is not what it used to be: with technology growing and advancing

faster than we ever thought possible, the need for natural resources is increasing. FAST.

The quantity of those resources is also dwindling, at an alarming rate. What can we do to

slow this process, as it is impossible to stop it?

• Do we need more money from tax payers?

• Can we actually GET more money from taxpayers?

• Do we need more houses, and can the Chesapeake Bay handle any more development by

humans?

There are many more topics such as this one that need to be taken into account, but these

are the best starters. So: do we really have the money to repair and ‘upkeep’ this natural

resource? I believe we can spare it. We need to spare it. This is a natural object we’re

talking about: it cannot be artificially recreated. We need to save it! No option around it.

Now: to address these problems, one at a time.

• The need for natural resources will never be met, with no need for more later. We can’t

stop it, but I think we can slow it. If we ask our residents to increase their recycling, and

decrease on their water intake, we can seriously benefit our own Bay’s future. How? We

can always give a little tax cut to our citizens for recycling 40% or more of their waste.

• Do we need more money? No, not if this plan to help the economy is going to work. If you

read the last bullet, you’d understand the reason for this. And I promise you: it’ll pay off,

in the end. If we cut their taxes a little, even simply on things like food or clothing (even

get creative and cut some off video games) will encourage many people to move here, thus

replacing our tax breaks with more people. If you get a lot of people to pay a little, you can

have more than asking one to pay a lot.

• Can we get money from our taxpayers? Yes, absolutely, but it may make one very

unhappy community.

• If we can ratify this proposal, than yes: The Chesapeake Bay is going to be more than

accommodating for new residents: healthier environment, healthier people. Healthier people,

healthier kids. Healthier kids, happier parents.

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From: Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS Ask

4/17/2008

how is more people going to help? arn't large group of people the cause of the problm?

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LG8 James Wood H.S.-Fordyce

4/8/2008

I’m important to the Chesapeake Bay because I pass laws to cleanup the bay.

It affects the local government because people blame the government for the pollution of

the bay. The solutions affect the local government because if the solutions don’t work the

government is at fault. The government always gets blamed for any thing that happens. The

reason why the water is polluted is because s of businesses dumping chemicals in the

water. To cleanup the bay plant trees and grass. That would help the bay. The grass

would help the bay to cleanup by helping erosion control. The government gets blamed

for everything that goes wrong with bay. The bay affects the government by getting the

people are on their side or against them. If the bay is polluted the people are against them.

The people expect the government to cleanup the bay. The government can make laws

that make the home owner check their septic system at least once every three months.

They can also provide money to plant buffers. They can found organizations to cleanup the

bay. If the government cleans up the bay the people will be on the government’s side. The

solution would have a demonstrable cost to the government because they have to come up

with the money to cleanup the bay. If the bay was cleaned up people wouldn’t complain to

the government. The government would have to raise taxes and take money out of other

funds. The people blame the government because their supposed to be making the laws. The

buffers would help because the roots are in the soil holding the soil from getting in the

bay. Ill passes laws that will make the watershed a cleaner place. Ill will make laws that

make the factories not allowed to dumping their chemicals into the bay.

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From: Redneck Story - Waterman - JWHS(F) Ask

4/14/2008

This guy is smarter than the average doorknob. Just kidding man.....Good Story Love it

lol...... SMC

From: The Pearls - local_gov - MdSA Ask

4/16/2008

The bay is not polluted ONLY because of the business' dumping chemicals into the

water... chemicals and sediment can travel to the bay because of weather or other non

point causes..so what solutions could you do to help the natural pollutions as well as the

point source polllution?

From: The Chesapeake Strip Mall - Other - MRGS Ask

4/23/2008

You say that businesses pollute the Chesapeake Bay. However, you only provide a few

solutions to stop business from polluting the bay. Yes, you do want to make laws to stop

factories from polluting, but what about service industries?

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LGvmnt 8 James Wood H.S.-Fordyce

4/8/2008

My job as the local government is very important to the Chesapeake Bay watershed.

Without me getting the problem out there that we need to fix the watershed problem and

letting people know what’s happening. Nobody would know what’s going on and keep doing

what they usually do. It’s my job to make sure people is doing there job. Someone has to be

in charge for everything to work and also bring in other people who know what to do about

the problem.

The bay’s problems affect everyone so much and it can make even worst as years go on. I

have to watch out for everyone who lives in my area and also the economy. Nutrients and

Sediment is two big factors for the watershed. The economy keeps getting bigger and

bigger. More houses are going up and industries. This affects the bay because of the

forest that use to be there to help the bay watershed. These also cause erosion on the

banks of the bay.

It’s going to help the watershed because they are one of the leading causes of the

watershed of the bay. If I do those things that would help the economy and it is what I am

suppose to do as local government person. It will help by having better water and the

ecosystem wouldn’t be disrupted. People might not like it because of not letting the

economy grow as much. Since you won’t be able to build everywhere and replace forest.

I would prefer to prevent nutrients and sediment from getting into the water. These two

things contribute to the watershed greatly. People keep building and developing that messes

the watershed up even more. We need to stop tearing down forest and need to be planting

trees to build back forest. That would help stop nutrients from getting into the water.

Land that is clear of vegetation causes erosion. Then sediment gets into the water.

Sediment clouds the water so it reduces sunlight so grass can’t grow to provide habitat for

young fish and blue crabs. These things would improve the watershed.

The watershed is mostly cause by nutrients and sediment. If these two factors are

control that would help the watershed. People are the big cause of this because of

destroying forest. They are building houses, industries, and developing along the river. We

need to be planting trees and vegetation to stop nutrients and sediment from getting into

the water. The land that is clear of vegetation causes erosion on the banks of the river.

People need to see what they are doing and help the watershed.

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From: SAVinators - CBP_Fed - MdSA Ask

4/16/2008

How will the government make the people do these things though?

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Because we said so. James Wood H.S.-Takarsh

4/9/2008

There are many roles the Local Government plays in protecting the environment. Most

of the times we have to compromise before we even think about what we need to do. Some

of the things that we feel would be beneficial to the Chesapeake Bay are Tax Breaks to

farmers, limited building zone, and stopping waste water from getting into the bay. The

costs and effects of these things many not be what people like. The tax breaks come out

of the budget and we don’t have as much money to spend on other things the community

may need. If we limit the building zone, we lose some building space. To stop the waste

water we need to build water treatment plants, which will take time and money.

There are things that we do not want to happen also. No restrictions on fertilizers, no

restriction on development, and overly expensive water treatment. Again, the costs and

effects are something people may not agree with. With no restrictions on fertilizers there

is no money spent by the government but the people who are fighting for the quality of the

Chesapeake Bay complain and try to stop it. No restriction on development means

populations growth which leads to more pollution and it is destroying forests.

There is a middle ground that both the Government and the community can be happy

with. There will be a restriction on the use of fertilizers but the money that the farmers

lose from their crops will be returned in the from of a tax break. This comes on of the

budget, but the lost crops get paid for the pollution from fertilizers are reduced.

Development will be limited near the bay, buildings that will draw a lot of people too it and

produce a lot of waste will no be allowed to be built near the bay. Low key places with little

traffic flow will be allowed. The last compromise is no storm drains will be connected to

sewage lines; this is a low expense and will cut back from waste getting into the stream.

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From: Home Jackets - homeowner - MHS Statement

4/11/2008

Not a bad report, but you could have mentioned things people can do in order to help with

water pollution.

From: The Pearls Mt de Sales Ask

4/14/2008

Over and over again you said that the local government always gets balmed for the

condition of the bay...but not everyone thinks so...plus as a fellow local government, we

do realize that we get blamed alot...but this is probably because we have to compromise

with everyone...not all groups of people such as farmers and construction workers can

get everything they ask of us..so naturally, not everyone would be completely happy

because they ofte just think about hwo our decisions only affect them instead of the

watershed population in general...

Response Because we said so. - local_gov - JWHS(T)

4/15/2008

I see what you mean about everybody not thinking it's our fault. But because

we are in the position to try to fix everything, they think we are the reason it is

not better. You're right in the fact that they don't realize that we have to make

everyone happy and we can't. They need to see what we have to deal with and the

problems the government runs into while trying to make everybody happy.

Do you have any other possible solutions to help solve these problems that the

government has run into?

From: Mount de Sales Ask

4/16/2008

I think the best possible thing to do as local government would be to work on the issues

one at a time...that way, its not an overall solution because if we tried to do it all at once,

alot of things would get over looked making the people even more upset...Also, working

on the bay issues one at a time would be cost effective because we wouldnt need huge

chuncks of money at a time and hopefuly that would also ease the concerns of the

people...

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Sulawesi Jefferson H.S.-Gipson

4/9/2008

We are important because we pass laws to clean up the bay. The bay pollution affects us

because we use water everyday, so if our water is dirty it affects our health and daily

lives. Solutions to this problem would affect everyone in a possitive way.

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From: Because we said so. - local_gov - JWHS(T) Ask

4/11/2008

so what are your solutions???

From: We Care, As Long As You Care - developer - CHS Statement

4/11/2008

You should definitely think about the effects of Chesapeake Bay pollution in a much larger

scale, especially considering that I seriously doubt that you drink brackish water. You also

did not suggest any possible solutions for the problem.

From: Mt de Sales Ask

4/14/2008

You said that solutions would affect everyone in a positive way..but what if the solutions

needed everyone to pay more taxes because then mabye not everyone would be happy...

And what ways are you planning on cleaning up the bay? Because some methods may be

harmful to young grasses and plants and even animals if you aren't careful...

And what kind of laws do you pass that compomise between the farmers, land owners,

and other facilities that are affected and affect the bay?

The new guy

From: awesomley amazing super spectacular envoirnmentalist - Other - Statement

4/15/2008

Well im not going to put you down, but you didnt offer any soultion. You only said that

you were important to the bay and that you dont want your water to be dirty. I think not

only should you have some solutions but dont just do if for your selves do something for

the people that use the bay's water, and also the animals who also use the water.

From: awesomley amazing super spectacular envoirnmentalist - Other - Ask

4/23/2008

I dont think you explained enough. Why is all this happening? How can you fix this. Can it

be prevented?

From: DB Defenders - Waterman - JWHS(T) Ask

4/23/2008

what other groups would you favor? For example, are you more sympathetic to

watermen or developers

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The Pearls Mount de Sales Acad.-Sargo

4/14/2008

Maryland's local government is affected because we have to compromise between

residents and Bay Programs. We make bills in order to protect and restore the Bay. Some

of these bills include giving money to Bay Programs. We also give money to farmers to help

them to reduce the amount of sediment runoff into the Chesapeake Bay waterways. We

are important because Bay Programs would not have the resources needed to help save and

restore the Bay. Also, without bills and other laws that the government has passed,

residents would damage the Bay for their own personal needs and have no idea of the

negative effects they have caused.

Local government in Maryland helped by planning to cut the female crab harvest up to

40% in order to increase population in 2008. This will allow female crabs to produce more

therefore increasing the crab population. Maryland, along with other watershed states, has

made plans to give farmers $250 million to help reduce nutrient and sediment runoff into

the Bay. Also, the Maryland Senate passed a bill which would further tighten shoreline

development restrictions. These restrictions require developers to be at least 200 feet

away from the shoreline. People wanted it to be 300 feet, but the Senate compromised at

200 feet. Without these bills, The Chesapeake Bay would have probably already been

detroyed beoyond repair.

<Farmers receive money>:

http://www.pennlive.com/news/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1207791610321560.x

ml&coll=1

<Female Crab Reduction>:

http://www.iht.com/aerticles/ap/2008/04/10/america/Crab-Worries.php

<Shoreline Restriction Bill>: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/politics/bal-

md.critical05apr05,06447020.story

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From: Mt de Sales Ask

4/14/2008

What are some different examples of laws you have passed to help the Bay?

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